Thread regarding Sabre Holdings layoffs

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The problems are caused by poor leadership since the very start in 1999 and perhaps even back to 1996 with AMR Corp or even earlier with AA. We were never an IT company.

Software in Sabre was always allowed to be hacked together organically without any grand plan by little team fiefdoms that competed against each other instead of collaborating together. Ill conceived proof of concept ideas became core products. Now there is a huge mountain of code, hack upon hack, incomprehensible numbers of technologies, the same wheels reinvented dozens of times, the same problems solved dozens of times, understaffed teams of jack-of-all-trades-but-master-of-none fighting constant support and stability wild fires, developers drowning in dev ops instead or developing, non-technical managers making technical decisions, managers who don't even understand what the products they own are let alone how those products work.

Will the new development just be more of the same?

Huge organizational changes would need to be made to fix this.

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There are bad leaders not only in Sabre, but those other companies are doing well anyway. It's a business which is ending. Its nit a time for traditional GDS or none-web/none-mobile apps in AS.

Sabre is not solvig main problem anymore and has old fasion apps people dont want to use.

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Post ID: @5gdu+QJmfsfD

AS is dealing with 1,000 lawsuits big and small, from other companies and from ex-employees. If AS is not shut down in next 6-12 months it will drag whole Sabre with it to the bottom.

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Post ID: @4foa+QJmfsfD

Selling AS is not that easy: look at SITA PSS, on sale for a year, no one interested... And with the declining number of customers who will buy it?

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Post ID: @4yzo+QJmfsfD

This site is TheLayoff.com, not Sabre strategy gone wrong for over 25 years because of bad leaders and poor IT planning.com. Anyone who has worked in for over a year understands that Sabre will do anything, including keeping bad leaders, protecting each other - weak school of management executives - for the bottom line (their bonus). They will layoff until they can't. They will create cause because the can, and they will fire you because they have to dump the benefits and salary. If you have been treated wrong, get together and share your stories with TWC, EEOC. Join a tech union. but PLEASE, do not expect any of the leaders to do the right thing for employees. They simply do no have the capacity for this....they will make excuses, avoid and have the HR do all their evil work.

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Post ID: @2zxw+QJmfsfD

Selling AS or most of it is obvious but overdue so closing it down is the only option. Reorganization as an alternative does not seem to be easily achievable. This monster needs a lot of money to stay afloat with very little benefits for the rest of the company.

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Post ID: @2ncv+QJmfsfD

Selling Airline Solutions is almost impossible, shutting AS down and firing all the AS employees seems to be the only solution...

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Post ID: @1jpo+QJmfsfD

If AS would sell shrink wrapped standard products instead of customizing everything for every single customer then they would probably be able to reduce staff by 50% and be a lot more profitable.

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Post ID: @wdb+QJmfsfD

I would too sell off AS (except SS which is actually very profitable) and SHS. They have been dragging this company down for years.

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Post ID: @ogm+QJmfsfD

Earlier.

This strategy worked all right when everything that mattered was only in TPF because TPF restricted the development technologies.

Once we started development outside the confines of TPF in the early 1990s then the cowboy coding and hack it together until it basically works methodology took over and that led to the current mess. Even when the development outside TPF was only in MS DOS there was no plan and no governing technical standards, some teams used MS C, some Borland C, some Assembler, some Turbo Pascal. Use whatever you wanted to, it didn't matter as long as it basically worked.

When development for Windows started then there were so many new technologies to play with, Watcom C, MS Quick C, MS Visual C, MS Visual Basic, Delphi.... they each had pros and cons, why not play with them all, so we did.

When we started UNIX development, there were so many different UNIX choices, SunOS, Solaris, Irix, HPUX, AIX, Linux.... we played with all of those too.

Then the internet became a thing, so now we could play with Apache PHP, MS IIS ASP, Zope, BEA Weblogic, Macromedia, Adobe, Tomcat.

All this new technology to play with, so much fun, we eventually managed to sunset a lot of it but not all. We are now drowning in technologies. Now there's even more new technology to play with. There always is. And we are playing with as much as we can. If you throw enough at a wall some will stick. Play Blackjack with as many hands as you can and one might win. Got to pad the resume for the next gig after the layoff.

So products today will continue to be hacked together by isolated and often understaffed teams because the products still have to get done somehow and what's best/quickest/cheapest for one team today probably is not the same as what is best for the whole company for the next 10 years.

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Post ID: @cfc+QJmfsfD

There has been much talk of why areas are offshore from other areas. Adding to that thought, just take a look at this repost; much like coding or testing work, certain cultures are prone to "copy and paste" of others' thoughts or work. This especially occurs in SVP and up where one read something on a whitepaper or blog or article, they steal the idea, make some slide and are promoted to insane money positions.

I am so tired of seeing this behavior. Do your own work, make your own way, cast off the cultural practice of cheating your way ahead. You are not a robot call center worker, or are you?

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Post ID: @smy+QJmfsfD

Everyone knows that for decades Sabre Airline Solutions is being run as an airline company but with no planes. Think about this statement and then work backward to all the bad decisions that have been made. AS is not a tech company, how much one wants to pretend. If I could, I would carve out GDS as a separate business unit and sell off AS and SHS, since the toxic waste (also called leadership) just moved from AS to SHS and that's drowning under its own sh--.

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