Thread regarding University of Phoenix layoffs

It's (unfortunately) not illegal to provide crap education

Gainful employment showed us what we already knew. Morons attend for-profit colleges because they can't get in/survive anywhere else. We now have the data. And nothing happens. Why? Because you can't shut down a school because it is providing a crap product. This is America. We'd have to shut down Walmart if that is the rule. Schools get shut down if they are making a mess of their finances. That is the American way. Al Capone got nailed for tax evasion, not murder. Schools know this.....

@Pvqr98a-2onf is completely right. This is our sad reality. And this is why instead of trying to improve our programs by giving students better education, UOP just keeps laying off people. Fewer students, fewer employees, same money for those on top.

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Amen

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-vtq: But who runs the government? Lobbies mostly and 'powerful relationships'. When a market needs to be deregulated or stay deregulated because profit can be made - it will be deregulated or stay deregulated. Examples are air travel (arguably a good move), options trading (Greenspan blocked regulating that for decades and we got the 2008 financial crisis once the CDO market got s---ed dry), education: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/14/goldman-sachs-for-profit-college_n_997409.html. Think of it this way - if the government (not some benevolent old dude with a beard btw) couldn't be bestirred to protect millions of American homeowners and their savings, what makes you think they give a rip for a few million students they consider to be societal bottom feeders anyway??

The only thing that takes out a 'crap product' in the US is the market dynamic of supply and demand. If there is no demand for a crap product the supply dries up. Caveat: For a large amount of the market that these crap products served the demand dries up. Will a smidge of that crap product still be sold? Of course. What else to hawk on late night TV?

Same with crap education: There will always be demand (poor people with underdeveloped skill sets from exposure to underfunded inner city primary and secondary education institutions) and because of that there will always be some form of funding even if it is a risky investment from the funder/bank side of view (see risky car loans, they still hand them out because on the whole they make money from the interest payments of those people who are paying in).

Future of distance/online education: The online post secondary education model has merit. Because we will be working longer in a very rapidly changing environment will will have to 'go back to school' a few times during our working lives. For adults with jobs, kids, lives, the online or evening school model is the only viable solution. But, and here is the but, the adults with the brains, the breeding and the money will attend the online schools attached to 'reputable' campus based schools, not some stand-alone for-profit call center with a server farm wrapped around it. The 'reputable' schools will crank out graduates that will further enhance their brand and the classic for-profits will be completely relegated into the 'dollar store' corner of the education market.

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Post ID: @1ccb+Pzys7wm

My friends.Don't think government will do anything for these violators. Secretary of Education will protect them. If you don't agree, just watch the final rulings on Western Governors. Their are some good, honest players in for-profit. They will survive.

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Post ID: @1qls+Pzys7wm

The problem is that much of the funding comes from the US government, in the form of Pell Grants, federal student loans, VA benefits and DOD benefits. The government can decide that subprime colleges are a bad investment and that would put an end to it.

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