Whomever asserted the degree is worthless is just spewing sour grapes. That is pure nonsense. I have taught here for 30 years and been in admin for 25. All of my degrees (7) are from either traditional or hybrid schools. I have taught at both for-profit adult institutions and non-profit universities. While UOP is not comparable to most state or private institutions (except maybe Mississippi) it offers education to those who are willing and committed to learn. Even Harvard had grade inflation issues (no I am comparing UOP to Harvard). I know the curriculum and syllabus I use to teach most courses here are comparable to syllabi at many other institutions and we use most of the same text books. The issue always has been breadth and depth. We skim the surface, offer topic surveys, and don't require in-depth, comprehensive treatments of a subject except in SAS. But students do learn and it is education, even if it is on the "lite" end of the spectrum. My students over the years have learned. My grading is rigorous. I am demanding. My classrooms are filled with dialogue and often vigorous discussions and debates. I give my own final exams that cannot be copied from the internet. I change many assignments to give them more substance and challenge. My students learn how to research, write, study, test, and think critically at a university level. Employers recognize the value of earning an accredited degree as an adult learner with a complex life and multiple responsibilities. Even the fact that an adult student returns to school and attempts to be educated while being an employee, parent, or spouse commends them to employers and says volumes about commitment, diligence, and perseverance. So, don't tell me a UOP degree is worthless. If one cannot find a job with a UOP degree, it is far more a function of individual personality, experience, attitude, and determination, not a UOP degree. Could we improve our academics? Absolutely! Should we? Absolutely? Unfortunately that opportunity has now passed. The remaining executives and deans are incapable of innovation, are risk-averse, and operate in a fractured culture where fear reigns. It should have happened 10 years ago. Now it is too late. The reputation cannot be repaired. The competition is overwhelming. Leadership has no courage or imagination, and most of the muscle has been cut, eliminating the remaining vestiges of sinew that might have turned this place around. It is all over, except for the crying. Anyone who is not looking for a new job doesn't need one or is simply too scared or weak, or maybe waiting for that miracle that will never come.