Thread regarding Sears layoffs

For those of you who don't understand how stocks work

https://www.disnat.com/en/learning/trading-basics/stock-basics/what-causes-stock-prices-to-change

A decrease in stock price doesn't mean anything except for the fact that the supply/demand has shifted. It does not show a company's health but they usually correlate. People based their decisions off news about the company. In this case the news was actually that they missed their projected profits.

Also if you think about who owns most of the sear stock you'd know who controls the supply and demand for the vast majority of the stock. Hint: it's probably Eddie and Bruce.

This is whirlpool's side of the exact same story.

https://www.disnat.com/en/learning/trading-basics/stock-basics/what-causes-stock-prices-to-change

In short, whirlpool claimed they discussed cutting ties with sears back in may. They also claim sears sales make up 3 percent of their global market business. Also, it seems the stock decreasing was caused by a report claiming they missed their projected sales by some margin and not because of sears. They claim that was due mostly to an increased cost of raw goods.

I'm not saying either is right or wrong but you guys should probably know there's two sides to this story....

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Post ID: @OP+PU3P7Cs

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"I believe those brands are all under the whirlpool umbrella, however the fact they they've lost so many different brands won't look well in the eyes of consumers who enjoy the illusion of choice."

It also spoils Sears' former marketing angle that they're the only store where you can see/get 'all the major appliance brands' (because they had the same brands as places like Home Depot etc, plus their exclusive Kenmore brand, that most consumers don't realize is made for Sears by the other brands).

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Post ID: @6pfu+PU3P7Cs

@hqm Sears stock has declined 9.15% as of 2:24 CT in today's trading.

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Post ID: @vfb+PU3P7Cs

Exactly. The fact that sears' stock hasn't gone down and whirlpool has isn't necessarily a reason to celebrate. At the same time, whirlpool and sears haven't completely broken ties for whatever reason. There's a lot we don't know so i don't understand why I see so many posts jumping to major conclusions on both sides.

It would make sense that sears cant actually pay whirlpool for their other products and they have some different deal going on with the kenmore branded items. All the other claims out there are a complete toss up. Even this one is somewhat of a toss up because we don't know all the facts.

I can agree with the fact that sears no longer carrying whirlpool, maytag, genair, and kitchenaid right before the holiday season is a bit suspect. I believe those brands are all under the whirlpool umbrella, however the fact they they've lost so many different brands won't look well in the eyes of consumers who enjoy the illusion of choice.

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Post ID: @hqm+PU3P7Cs

Read the articles. Whirlpool even states they are still manufacturing some Kenmore product. The companies are still working together. Whirlpool just isn't selling their brands to Sears.

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Post ID: @mgr+PU3P7Cs

@OP - "I'm not saying either is right or wrong but you guys should probably know there's two sides to this story...." Don't waste your breath. These corporate trolls know darn well there is another side to the story, but their sole job is to glorify only the Sears side. Whirlpool was smart to manipulate Sears into breaking ties with them. Why would Whirlpool want to be onboard when Sears goes underwater? There is no business advantage gained by getting drawn into another company's bankruptcy filing and possible liquidation! Sure, Whirlpool suffers a minor blow now, however, they avoided a major beat down in the future.

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Post ID: @fgx+PU3P7Cs

It was most likely due to their own announcement. I'd see sears more as a liability than an asset these days. A non profitable company that has been unsure of its own ability to exist is definitely a liability.

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Post ID: @adb+PU3P7Cs

Whirlpool didn’t miss anything they cut forward guidance.

Thanks for the advice, maybe you should learn how stocks work.

They are gettin pummeled in no small part because of the sears announcement leaking.

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