Thread regarding Education Management Corporation layoffs

If gainful employment is to succeed it must be applied to all institutions - for-profits, private and public.

Singling out private schools is outrageous. You want to help students, help them all. But be prepared to kill creative programs nationwide- if the only qualifier is salary after graduation. No poets, dance, theater, arts, english lit- the list will be endless.

Many students don't necessarily go in to the careers they study. College is more then a paycheck. It focuses goals, build character and contacts. The DOE should track the numbers and colleges must be honest with students about their prospects.

Students need to be realistic that not all programs are successful right after graduation. It takes time to build your career.

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Post ID: @OP+LL81TbK

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I'm an employee for Art Institutes and all I can say is that if you are a student, save your Federal Money and get out while you still have some left. What they are not telling you is that if you stay and the program fails that's less money you will have to use towards your new school or program. The FAFSA money is very limited. It does run out.

Military students, support your fellow classmates by withdrawing from AI. Civilians do not receive the same benefits as you do. If the Financial Aid department is telling you to apply for Federal Aid, don't do it. You will be in the same boat as a civilian. Make this message go viral to all AI's or EDMC schools. There are way better options out there that will cost less AND the outcome of your education will be ALOT better.

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Post ID: @2koc+LL81TbK

Not for profits don't have sales teams in admissions offices masquerading as admissions directors. Not for profits haven't broken federal laws prohibiting paying sales commissions to admissions personnel for funneling federal money into private pockets instead of recruiting qualified candidates. I mean really, who do you think you're kidding? If you can't see the issues with for profits and federal money you're just stupid.

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Post ID: @2bgp+LL81TbK

@LL81TbK-nqq Students generally accept the truth the moment they see any repeated "mistakes" and in most cases actually admit they had made a poor choice because they know who's responsibility it was on their own choice. The Faculty? They are more in a denial stage and would simply shove anyone under the bus to avoid losing a job. They thought they were safe? Sorry, but getting laid off due to company reasons is part of the reality that they should have already got used to a long time ago.

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Post ID: @1zin+LL81TbK

I went to AIP for culinary for two quarters a few years ago. Two chef instructors (when they were in the room) would have the class google answers. I'm pretty sure they were going to "graduate school" at Argosy at the time because they were always on their computers during class. The program was such a joke that I left before I threw more money away. Some of the instructors were talented but the expectations for them to actually do their job (teach) was so low. The director was never there because he was promoting his own career and the real educators left as soon as they had new opportunities in place. The moral was horrible. The faculty didn't get along and one of the "google instructors" would take pictures of student food and post it on his instagram account as his own. What a loser! I went to a state college for my undergrad degree and wanted to learn to cook. It is pathetic what is happening in this country in our education system. I can't believe that EDMC is still in business. I tell everyone that my experience at AI was a sham - I spent close to 10K before I had the nerve to quit and admit I made a horrible choice. The younger kids with fewer options let pride and some innocence (they don't know better?) get in the way. I'm not blaming them at all. It is tough to admit when you make a poor choice.

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Post ID: @nqq+LL81TbK

I wonder what will happen if - in fact - the Department of Education is done away with as Congress would like. All power would shift back to the state. I suppose Gainful Employment would continue to grind on in the interim period.

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Post ID: @jon+LL81TbK

Students should be paying google and Craigslist for their degrees from AI

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Post ID: @gmn+LL81TbK

If a student can pay back the basket weaving degree from Brown then so what? Students are not paying back the Art Institute culinary "degrees" because they can't even cook an egg when they graduate. Those who can cook that egg learned from their job. The "photography" degrees? Those degrees stack up as much as the PhDs in "leadership." For profit education is a sham.

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Post ID: @xxz+LL81TbK

It would be a valid argument.... on the grounds that this company actually accepts accountability. You say students need to be realistic that not all programs are successful? That's a laugh considering that one of the primary purpose of going to college is to get a degree in order to access higher wage jobs and if that weren't the case, pursuing higher education isn't on a student's priority if it means they're going to owe a large debt later on in life without gambling a chicken or the egg scenario. If you want to lecture the students on being realistic, you're pointing at the wrong target.

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Post ID: @qxd+LL81TbK

Get off your soapbox.

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