Thread regarding ITT Educational Services Inc. layoffs

Did I graduate?

I along with 11 others finished the Breckinridge Nursing program with a graduation date of September 4, 2016. No one at the Ohio campus is returning calls or emails to tell us if we truly did graduate, and if we did, how our paperwork is getting submitted to the Board of Nursing. We were only told that our commencement ceremony had been cancelled. The ED told us they have nothing to do with it. And of course, all we get when we call corporate is a recorded message. Now what?

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If anyone can go on 9/8/16 between 9am-11am &/or 3pm-5pm, some designated staff should be present. Maybe they will have some type of response. Pick-up your items, (if you have left something). All students should request their TRANSCRIPTS, copy DOE on all of your requests

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Post ID: @upn+JgnA0PA

"To somehow think that ITT Tech is somehow now (after all this time) going to magically follow through on what is expected of it...is naive in the extreme."

What magical 8 ball do you have? ITT-Tech was a scam education, but they always maintain the appearance of being a legitimate school -- that is part of their brainwashing. Through the end, the company CEO has denied any wrong-doing, any errors, any failure to comply with accreditation criteria, etc. Sure, this is entirely false, the CEO should have been fired years ago, but he is absolutely consumed with pretending to have operated a real college.

So I think ITT Educational Services will continue a few very simple and very basic operations -- such as making up-to-date transcripts available with June quarter grades posted on them -- eventually. It doesn't cost them much to provide degree documentation, so they will do it to keep up appearances.

I think Modany is very possibly a narcissistic mental case. He has been slowly, unbelievably driving his business off a cliff for years, unchecked by his board of directors. And he will want to get attention for being the victim of attack by whoever his demented brain cooks up, and he will want to keep up appearances, as long as it doesn't cost his company very much money!

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Post ID: @leg+JgnA0PA

This board is filling up with apologists for ITT Tech....spouting off like they're doing the students a favor or something.

To somehow think that ITT Tech is somehow now (after all this time) going to magically follow through on what is expected of it...is naive in the extreme.

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Post ID: @mkh+JgnA0PA

"ITT Tech is gone as of yesterday"

ITT Technical Institutes have been closed, but ITT Educational Services is not gone. And actually, students who were enrolled in a July class online with ITT-Tech are able to finish up their classes! ITT-Tech institutes was only one part of their business -- by far the largest part. They still operate Daniel Webster College in New Hampshire, and Benchmark Learning. The CEO and his band of thieves are still in Carmel, IN, headquarters collecting their salary, and a few ITT-Tech employees are still on payroll. ITT-Tech was not shut down by some external order, the CEO simply felt it was not worth trying to continue the business after Department of Education told him his company was no longer eligible for federal student aid money.

Who knows, it is likely their remaining businesses will close, and maybe bankruptcy declared. But meanwhile, it is not like the entire data base of information that was ITT-Tech has vanished! If you are concerned about grades, can you access your student portal? Take a screen print of your online gradebook, showing your June quarter grades. I am a "terminated" adjunct instructor, and I am looking at my online gradebook right now -- everything is there. Links have been posted for requesting transcripts.

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Post ID: @blm+JgnA0PA

ITT Educational Services still exists as a company. They have obligation to provide precise status of all students who completed their program coursework in June quarter. Graduation ceremony is not when the degree is technically awarded; the degree is awarded when all the boxes are checked off on a list of requirements, and then the degree will finally be added to your transcript.

Some colleges won't add the degree to your transcript if you have unpaid library fines, etc -- all fines paid off is one of the boxes some colleges have on their list of requirements. In your catalog (student handbook section ) it says: "A student is responsible to the school for the replacement cost of any lost or damaged materials the student removes from the LRC. A student’s degree or diploma will be withheld by the school until all LRC materials the student removes from the LRC are returned to the school in good condition or the student pays the school the replacement cost of those LRC materials."

Do students know what boxes need to be checked off? Did they get a list, informing them about unpaid LRC costs, etc? Don't nursing students at ITT-Tech need to pass an EXIT-HESI, or ITT-Tech will withhold degree? These are the things that every student should know about.

Not only should students know exactly what they needed to check off, in order to get the actual degree added to transcripts, before the recent ITT-Tech closure, but they need to ask if any of those requirements will change! How do LRC fines get paid off now? What about Exit-HESI requirement, will that be waived now? What about your state nursing board -- which knows by now that ITT-Tech campuses have closed -- will they allow students to sit for NCLEX? And on and on and on.

I suggest putting together all the documents you can find, including official and unofficial transcripts, documents provided by college showing exact degree requirements, etc. Then CALL YOUR STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL office -- they handle consumer complaints about any business in their state.

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Post ID: @lsf+JgnA0PA

Yes you will be graduated and you will receive a diploma. HQ is still there and will be graduating student and mailing diplomas if they hadn't already been sent to the campus. There are still at least 1 or 2 employees at each campus. They will direct students to the portal or ITT website if they show up to the campus. I am one of those remaining employees. Also for nursing students, the exit HESI is no longer a requirement to graduate so you can go straight to the NCLEX now if you hadn't taken or passed the HESI. I really wish people would stop falling for the hysteria and the total speculation on these message boards. All September grads will be graduated and will receive diplomas but there will be no ceremony.

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Post ID: @mfu+JgnA0PA

People don't get it; updating a transcript, printing a diploma...is fine if there still was an ITT Tech. There isn't anybody left to do anything...ITT Tech is gone as of yesterday. No instructors to post final grades, no registrars to evaluate graduation requirements, no system access to update records, no system support to give anybody access...nothing.

All that will be available is a room full of files, located at each campus, to sort through.

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Post ID: @hjy+JgnA0PA

The conferring of the degree is simply a symbolic gesture. It has no substantive meaning and there is not even a record of the action anywhere. What counts is that the campus registrar sets your transcript to "graduated" status. This status is indicated on your transcript. This is typically done after all grades post for the quarter. You should be fine

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Post ID: @wjx+JgnA0PA

"If it were only a matter of mailing out a piece of paper. But it's not. ITT Tech notified the ED as of yesterday, that they are closed, shut down, no longer a school. ITT Tech no longer has the authority to confer any new degrees. Period."

Absolute nonsense. They can still provide diplomas to students who have met the relevant criteria.

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Post ID: @ffs+JgnA0PA

"Why can't diploma be picked up or mailed out? Problem solved. Seems straighforward"

If it were only a matter of mailing out a piece of paper. But it's not. ITT Tech notified the ED as of yesterday, that they are closed, shut down, no longer a school. ITT Tech no longer has the authority to confer any new degrees. Period.

Anyone who expected to graduate this week is out of luck.

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Post ID: @tdc+JgnA0PA

Why can't diploma be picked up or mailed out? Problem solved. Seems straighforward

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Post ID: @ivn+JgnA0PA

There were approximately 2500 expected graduates who fell into this "no diploma and no loan discharge" situation.

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Post ID: @hac+JgnA0PA

If you completed all the coursework and were simply waiting until this week for commensement and to receive your diploma; YOU ARE IN A PICKLE. ITT-Tech is closed and cannot confer any degrees, diplomas, certificates, anything.

What makes matters worse is that you fall into a narrow situation in which your student loans ARE NOT eligible for discharge.

This subject came up in this morning's DOE webinar. The rule is quite explicit: "If you have completed your course of study, you are not eligible for loan discharge, regardless of whether you've received your diploma or not".

I feel badly for you...if ITT would have simply canceled the Fall quarter but stayed open instead of closing down; you'd be fine (In debt, but diploma in hand, and ready to take your nursing exam).

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Post ID: @lwf+JgnA0PA

Youngstown

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Post ID: @kfk+JgnA0PA

If you completed all of your coursework and have had your degree conferred congrats you got a 90k nationally accredited degree that is not eligible for loan forgiveness. If you have completed a program you cannot have your loans discharged. It doesn't work this way you cant just go to school, borrow money from tax payers and then get your loans forgiven because the school closed.

If you did not complete the degree within the past 120 days you may be eligible for a loan discharge.

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Post ID: @bxw+JgnA0PA

Even if you did end up graduating, still apply for a closed school discharge. Start fresh without the loans.

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Post ID: @ewh+JgnA0PA

Which Ohio campus?

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