I hear there will be changes before the 2nd week of November. Not sure if this mean cutting heads...but likely.
The clueless leaders they appoint to make decisions is truly unreal. Circus music is the best way to describe it.
Vote trump to stop political correctness.
Try not to panic and when it starts for real just take the money and be done with this joke of a company.
At the same time, go have a look at glassdoor reviews and have a laugh at all the "Best company ever" messages.
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Where do this numbers come from?
it will eh around 700 or so this time
Happening in Sunnyvale too.
"people just vanished from their cubes"
But you can find them in the Gym or in conf rooms.
"it started and finished already. people just vanished from their cubes. this is a new layoff style."
How many people have you seen disappearing this way and from which orgs?
it started and finished already. people just vanished from their cubes. this is a new layoff style.
Re:. "If you perform well, you have nothing to fear".
From being on the list making and people picking side, layoffs in a lot of circumstances are more random then not especially with certain job types. And this is NOT just a NetApp thing and this is NOT just a tech thing, this is just the way they do it. The thing to remember is the point of the RIF is not to preserve the best, it's often to eliminate at least $x, and sometimes it's a very firm limit. If you're $1 under your amount cut another person, so sometimes you have to cut a better guy just to make the number because you know for sure the project fails if you cut that extra guy. Sometimes it's balancing territories or locations. You might be a rock star developer with this language or for this tool, but we have two of you on the east coast and only one on the west coast, so pick one east coaster at random. Just because you're good doesn't mean your manager isn't going to take the opportunity to punt you and stack rack you low if he doesn't like you, or maybe your second line hates your manager so he picks the top of the stack rank to sabotage your manager.
On the whole being a good performer gives you better odds then a poor performer, but we're talking small percentage points.
This is one way to get around the WARN act. This is how it has happened in the past:
Rather than give employees 60 day notice, NetApp changes their working status. Come RIF day, those lucky souls affected will be notified that they are still technically employed by NetApp for the next 60 ish dsys, but their status is something like "Not Working.". They are not allowed to work, but they will still receive full paychecks and benefits.
After the 60 ish days are up, they will then become officially unemployed. They will receive their severance checks, which will vary based on their position, vacation acrual and tenure etc. I think it was something like 3 weeks pay plus an additional week for every year served, up to a max of 12 weeks pay.
Not much solice if you're on the list, but if you get cut in November you'll actually still be employed with benefits through the first week of January. Merry Christmas from George Kurian.
No one's hiring around the holidays, so try and make the most of a bad situation.
If it's the same as last time, you will get 8 weeks paid which wilder you through the holidays.
Salary is huge on the priority list. Transformation orders to hire graduates or 1 to 2 years out for half the pay for all open recs that can be filed in this manner. Senior roles of course will not be filled this way.
Just curious...Has NetApp done RIFs right before Thanksgiving and Christmas before? Seems kinda crappy if they do. Of course I realize it's an international company and there's probably always a holiday affected somewhere in the world.
"Then why is everybody saying its going to be a small RIF compared to past time?"
Everybody? Do you know everybody at every geo who is talking about the RIF? I don't either. I suspect you meant that most of the people you discuss this with are of the opinion that there will be less impact at their geo than there was last time. That could be true for your site, but it could be incorrect too. If everyone at what's left of the Boulder site lost their jobs, or 50 people in Wichita lost their jobs, that would definitely be more than were affected in the last one. I would say that was a big RIF in that case. That's just my opinion though.
"But what if only a couple of jobs are to be eliminated from an entire team? What would be the criteria then?"
If it's anything like the last one in Sunnyvale, it's age and salary.
Large RIF? Then why is everybody saying its going to be a small RIF compared to past time?
Re: I think performance would be one of the factors, definitely.
"I think," assumes you are stating your opinion. Therefore, it could not be definitive. It could be the case that performance would be a deciding factor as to who stays and who goes (for a one or two person layoff). It may not be the deciding factor either. Again, anyone who has been in this business long enough would be able to give you plenty of examples of times when the most deserving people did not get what the deserved. Sometimes the least deserving individuals are the ones making the layoff list, and they certainly aren't going to put their own name on the list.
The sweeping statement that, "If you perform well, you have nothing to fear" is just wrong. We are talking about a large RIF on November 3rd.
If whole team/BU/site goes, then there is no question of performance.
But what if only a couple of jobs are to be eliminated from an entire team? What would be the criteria then? I think performance would be one of the factors, definitely.
Re:. "If you perform well, you have nothing to fear".
You're naïve if you believe that. You obviously don't understand economics and greed of corporate America. It's really not that complex. If the CEO of your company decided to quit producing widget A and close the facility, there is no job for anyone associated with that product, regardless of how well they performed their job. Almost anyone who has worked in high tech for any amount of time would be able to provide you with anecdotal evidence that backs this up.
Remember, it's better to be thought of as a fool, than it is to open your mouth (or keyboard) and remove all doubt.
"If you perform well, you have nothing to fear"..... There's another idiot drinking the Kool aid!
Stop spreading misinformation and go get another job already since you're so useless you wake up every morning feeling you'll lose your job. Believe it or not, lay offs aren't random... if you perform well, you have nothing to fear.
A little research will yield November 3rd as the consensus date for the next LSI/NetApp/HSG/E-SERIES bloodbath. The victims in Boulder who where not invited to the SolidFire party? The 50 or so slated for the axe in Wichita? You're the lucky ones. Life will continue after the RIF. Most likely, life post LSI/NetApp will be much better.
You won't be constantly looking ovet your shoulder wondering when the next RIF will be and if you will survive again. Twenty years of that sh-- really wears you down emotionally. Ex LSI/NetApp folk report being much better off after leaving whether on their own terms or caught in one of the endless RIF's.
Like the Talking Heads song, "Same as it ever was..." Break the cycle. Don't wait for them to make your decision as to when you are going to make a career change. The grass really is greener almost everywhere else.
Good luck!
@JOACdUr-2jbv That's probably GK posting and then watching everyone stress out on the security cameras. He's gotta have some entertainment while he watches his stock values increment up. It's like a clicker game in real life.
How can you say "it has started" without also providing any details?... WHERE has it started?... How many affected?... etc. Without additional information, this is merely reckless speculation.
Looks like head count has started. Execution may take another week or so
Nothing have started off anywhere as of today....
Guys do not spread uncertainty here too. We have it in loads at NetApp and that is why people keep a tab at this website expecting some kind of credible information which can be trusted in some way.
They have always done it on a Tuesday or Wednesday. Nov 3 is a Thursday.
Lot os uncertainty!!around
NANE impacting...
Again, Nov3? Any information if how much impact in PTC/RTP?
Nov 3..
just a troll, nothing happened in RTP today
Last 2 layoffs were a week before all hands.
Everyone is good for 3 more weeks.
Troll. Nothing appears to be happening.
Please don't spread baseless info. Doesn't seem to be happening in SVL.
Started without GK's email? Doesn't look like its happening today @RTP
Huh? What site?