I am curious as to why we are not being offered an incentive like enrollment was?
A few months ago enrollment had layoffs and those that volunteered were given an additional 3 weeks I believe.
So some reps got 12 weeks pay for severance.
Why is it not being offered this time?
Isn't there a legal obligation to do so?
About time someone willing to tell it like it was...👇🏻
Do you know why there was an incentive last time??? JD and Doris Savron went to their dean at the time and refused to do another layoff unless there was an option for people to opt out and get an incentive to do so. I know this for a fact. Well, JD is no longer here and the enrollment VP's who supported this action aren't around either. They got rid of the only people who cared. That was their strategy the entire time... keep people like Chris Gloor and Brett Romney they get exactly what they want because those two asskissers don't have an opinion if it means a few more months of pay...the other couldn't have cared less...there were some great leaders here at one time, they're gone now...
Yes this should be a site for constructive discussion. Name-calling and demeaning people feels like being right at home working at UOP.
Lighten up Francis
@KT
Wow you are a real douche bag, it was just a simple question.
Isn't that what this site is for?
To ask questions and discuss rumors and things of that nature?
The OP was just asking for clarification.
And yes, Enrollment was offered an incentive if they volunteered for layoff.
It is a fact.
Stop being such a miserable prick and trolling.
Garbage in. Garbage out
So funny to see enrollment reps attempt to defend their "importance." Almost every reason the government is after the industry is due to aggressive recruiting and outright lies by shady enrollment reps. No matter how many times they are caught on tape or had complaints filed to regulators, they still don't learn. Ha.
No, "for profit" schools are FOR PROFIT. It's in the name you simpleton
"I believe"...yeah, you just confirmed how stupid you are. "Let me throw out guesses and complain about a reality I'm not getting that I don't even know happened in the first place"...good luck in life dumbass.
Really. Stop being greedy and find a new job while you can. Don't think you will get a sweet deal just for leaving. Find a new job, move on like everyone else.
Rude people.
Funny, I thought for profit schools were there to serve the underprivileged, not go for enrollment numbers! Based on these comments, you can see where U of Phx places their business, directly on ENROLLMENT. Enrollment reps are paid high salaries, are hired and fired based on how well they can sell their junky degrees to the unsuspecting public. The public knows now, they know the degree is worthless in the job market. No amount of telemarketer wheeling and dealing will fix this. If you have a crappy product, it will not sell. Sad to see they "sold" education, but it was an easy scam back in 2007-2011. I hope they lose their accreditation with HLC. The general public should be outraged at what these "colleges" did, as outraged as they were at Enron.
Bwahahahaha...spoken like a true, short-sighted Phoenix enrollment rep. Enrollment is important, but as the last 6 years shows, it is nowhere near what "makes the world go round." Ensuring you have a quality product with a respectable reputation is "what makes the world go round." Relying on endless desks of slimy telemarketers to enroll anything off the street, all the while not investing in your brand is the UOP way, and the results have been catastrophic. The Phoenix acted like a boiler room for decades, relying solely on new enrollment. The result: a well earned winding down of operations and regulatory spanking. New enrollment is only a portion of what would make for a successful organization, but short-term thinking is what UOP is all about and new enrollment is THE short-term measurement that can be used. Azcentral reported that Apollo education has roughly the same total enrollment as it did in 2002, but currently employs 7000 more people. I GUARANTEE that UOP is STILL overstaffed in enrollment by 50-60 percent, all the while losing $60 million a quarter. Quit whining about severance, and find another job....when private equity takes over, you will be doing it anyway.
Enrollment makes the company go 'round. Why would they treat both departments the same when they most certainly are not. Did you read your post after you wrote it? You sound like a whiny older sibling that got jipped on their fries.
Stop Whinning. enrollment has been going through layoffs for 5 years. Its about time they are not on the chopping block. Be happy we are getting anything. We are all going down its not a matter of if but when.
true they probably will follow the same path as Everest Corinthian that's why they're pushing so hard to get the buyout done so they will only be settling what they have to settle to get the buyout approved. I agree they are done it's just a shame they're taking so many good people with them employees and students.
Lots of f--s and dykes
Are they still protecting all the queers?
@Gottheshirt - This place will be bankrupt in 6 months anyway, they don't give a sh-- about lawsuits that might materialize a year or two after they close up shop.
Where are layoffs happening at this time?
How come no one ever says anything these days about Barbie?
I can see that there would not be a legal obligation on the severance packages but when you start offering Severance packages that are randomly different. don't you set a dangerous precedent of not being fair or being discriminatory when the Severance packages appear to be haphazard and follow no pattern or policy? I worked for a Fortune 500 company in the past that was downsizing and they offered a consistent package based on years of service and it was the same for all employees that were in the reduction in Workforce process. It apears that UOP offers different Severance packages to different departments and are offering voluntary packages on the same day that they are walking people out and those that are walked out are not offered the same package at the same time on the same day. it just seems another case of really poor decision-making that leaves UOP open to more discrimination complaints and or lawsuits. that is why when employees are signing the severance agreements they are usually signing away their rights to file any complaints against UOP or to get any monetary compensation if they file a complaint. the severance money gets taxed higher so the actual payout isn't as good as it reads on paper. after all of the training tutorials and webinars and classes on treating everyone equally in a diverse world and representing themselves as such a world-class organization it's such a case of hypocrisy when they don't treat everyone the same and they don't pay women as much as they pay men. Then there are some departments that would get bonus pay and other departments clearly did not. Typical UOP always trying to see how far they can push the envelope before they get caught. Wonder if they have responded to the court order that the FTC filed asking them to turn over documents as the whole organization was not supposed to be deleting or getting rid of any kind of information. Do our phones still record all the students private information because stop on demand does not work to stop recording phone calls that are not supposed to be recorded because DQ SS the quality control for phone calls is not allowed to hear all the information that some advisors are allowed to hear from students. It's one thing after another and so much could be avoided if GREED was not the number one motivator and now even the shareholders are wanting to sue Apollo group and UOP for not representing their best interests aka profits. oh what a tangled web we weave.... get to EEOC with those valid complaints before you sign an agreement that says you can't file a complaint or says you can' t say anything bad about your employer or your previous employer as the case may be. May the force be with you.
Update.
58 people have volunteered on the finance side.
I worked there almost 10 years ago. Same song, same dance, new players. You should have seen this coming. Take the offer and get a new job. Run, while you can be the one to lead the way!
Most of you ghouls deserve to lose your job, and spend eternity in hell.. Pretty funny blaming it on not working hard enough, as if screwing over more students was ever the answer.
jhz - Mean-spirited and off-target. You think that the 40% drop in enrollment over the past 2-3 years is because people didn't work hard enough? Let's see what weak-minded rationalization you offer when your turn comes. Just sayin......
vlq is on target. There is no obligation to pay any severance at any time (unless governed by a union contract - not in play here). The longer lay-offs drag on, the less money there is to pay severance. As a VP in another company once told me - "This is a parade you want to be in the front of". Does anyone forecast a reversal in the current enrollment/attrition trends anytime soon? If you are in a vulnerable position - volunteer/take the offer. Not only will you get more now than later, you will be in a better position to compete for a new job.
People who are scared and stressed probably should be. Funny how people only care about keeping their job when they are about to lose one. Probably should've worked harder along the way, just sayin.
@LifeafterUOP
Thank you for the input.
I am not sure what to do.
It will be interesting to see if we actually get all the volunteers we need.
A lot of people are scared and stressed out.
No legal obligation.
If you are in a role which does not directly impact profitability you will not receive additional weeks in your severance package. What you ARE receiving should you opt-in to this round of voluntary layoffs is advance notice and healthcare coverage that will be extended based on your time and tenure in the role.
With each round of layoffs regardless of your department/unit you can expect fewer options and less financial gains should you accept a severance package.