Thread regarding HP (Hewlett-Packard) layoffs

They're hoping employees just quit instead of driving the 50, 100 miles+ to an HP office.

This might be considered constructive dismissal in many states, entitling you to unemployment and possibly even a package even if you quit.

Yup, currently i am in the same boat[WFR]. Last 3 years no salary hike but executives minted money. They are hiring contractors and moving the job to low cost centers. Thou i am the only one who currently knows the project code, they want to lay me off in a month. They just don't know what they are doing. At one point we had 3 managers to look into 6 subordinates.. HPE is a very bad place to work for. One way of removing people is they tell people to come into office to work[it does not matter if the hpe office is close by or 50 or 100 miles away], thou most of the team is working remotely. Another way is to load up people with work or no salary hike for n number of hears so they will automatically quit.

Oh, HP... what the hell happened? I know things change over time, but what used to be important isn't anymore. It's not the people working 14 hr days that caused that.

On the HPE side I support three accounts. One is US-Support only so all of the team is spread around the United States. The other two accounts rely primarily on offshore support. Both are in Inida.

First off, my customers are in the United States, so they expect to be supported during working hours. If a problem happens, they can't wait 12 hours till the L3s in India come on shift. The L1s on their mid shift is what is available during the customers' buisness hours. Fortunately I'm a technical L3 so when something happens during the day, it's me that they call for 911 support.

Then I'm told by my manager that I'm supposed to let the Inidians take care of it, because I'm putting too many hours in Compass that they have to charge the customer at my pay rate, rather than the Indians.

Also, the India groups support up to 20 customers. So my accounts I get a time-slice of their support, since I'm just one voice in the crowd. That means CRs take two or three days to get created, and Service Manager is a bitch even if you actually are good at using it. Tasks are never closed by the Indians, I have to give them the weekend schedules on a Wednesday, so they can get the people lined up for the weekend but the Customer doesn't approve the changes till a Thursday in the US

All this leads to a lot of pissed-off people on the customer end because the Indians don't like to communicate really well. They don't call into the customer change meeting bridges because there its the middle of the night and then they don't let the customer know if there is a problem on weekends. They rely on email to me and I don't sit on my computer all weekend since they don't seem to know what a telephone is or how to use it to call me if there is a problem. So things sit for hours and I get pissed off customers.

The joys of outsourcing 90% of HPE

You get what you put into your job. Whining and complaining get you NOWHERE. If you don't like where HPE is going then leave! No one is forcing you to stay and quite honestly if you don't want to be apart of the process to make HPE great again it would be best if you find employment that is more suitable to those that only want to whine and complain. IF SO UPSET, WHY ARE YOU STILL WORKING FOR HP INC OR HPE?

I would be we worked together once. I too left. It was not worth explaining one more time. No one was listening. I enjoyed it at one time, but the last two years were hell. When the suffering around me followed me home..... you know it. But to hear others felt the same is nice to hear. Not alone. New job, new people. Happy.

My experience was a bit more positive but all the pay ranges line-up, so there is very little financial incentive to move to other teams in the contract. It took me longer than it should have to be paid what I am worth and many other companies are paying more for the same type of work while offering fairly comparable benefits.

You are so right. I'm there now in HP and they are looking to chop heads again. They are not looking at skill level or knowledge, strictly the bottom line. You work so many hours to make nonsensical decisions a reality and they change again when they realize that is not the correct path and we go back on the hamster wheel to march to the next poor decision. Then, thanks for all your work but you are laid off.

Yep, just like that

Yep, what you experienced is the hpe way for sure.