Thread regarding ConocoPhillips layoffs

Serves them right! 2 more quarters of 30 dollar=very big trouble for COP

While I am glad they have decided to cut the dividend and are perhaps realizing the gravity of the situation they have put themselves in, the fact that they did indeed put themselves here by not cutting the dividend earlier and worse, funded the dividend up to this point using debt. Now the CFO states COP is not comfortable having a plan that relies heavily on debt financing to fund cash shortfalls, where was this prudent logic one quarter ago?

Now COP investors have a company that has failed to not only maintain its dividend as a "key component" of its value proposition, but have also saddled themselves with more debt in the process. Investors are left with an oil major that is sub-par and paying a dividend that is only 2.6%, which is below the 4.4% average of oil companies paying a dividend. COP is a failure at this point relative to its peers and my question is what value remains here?

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In COP it is VCIP first, investors second, and employees last. This attitude probably comes from the slave owning culture of COP founders.

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Post ID: @fte+FN9qcFr

The advice to executive management is not the issue its management itself. The oil fundamentals are very clear ...

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Post ID: @izd+FN9qcFr

I am shocked that COP management thought Oil prices would bounce back and kept paying dividend ! .. an employee with good oil industry experience told me , this will end with lot of middle Oil Companies will go out of Business when it was $45 barrel then.. How come the top Mgt did not have a clue to this ? Are they so dumb or it is the Ego ? either way paying Dividend using Debt is Foolish

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Post ID: @hrh+FN9qcFr

When one retorts "imbecile" the argument is lost just like ConocoPhillips.

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Post ID: @ptw+FN9qcFr

That is exactly my point you imbecile. COP like everyone else didn't expect the downturn to last. And by the way, why are you so worried about the investors? Weren't you the same people who were complaining about the dividend being too high? And btw, the $45 is an average for the whole year and $40 is still manageable with this operating plan. I say kudos Ryan and the rest of the ELT for having the balls to make bald decisions and not let investors dictate the company's future. Also you do know that they can raise the dividend whenever they want right?

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Post ID: @nmg+FN9qcFr

The executive team, including Ryan, have been misleading employees and investors by hiding behind past performance. In the call yesterday they presented their analysis based on $45 oil when we have had $30 oil so far in 2016, and continue to have week fundamentals in the oil market. We are likely to see $30 through to the fall ... given that we are running only three rigs in the L48 what will the fall redeterminations of borrowing base look like?

NB - hope Mulva kept his ConocoPhillips stock ;)

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Post ID: @nwm+FN9qcFr

No COP lied to investors... They pounded the table and said the dividend is safe. The dividend hasn't been safe for a year, their first plan to survive was based on 60 dollar oil when oil was 45. This time their plan to survive is 45 and oil is trading at 31 oh and let's cut the dividend! Ryan lance is a liar and the investor community is mad because now they are holding the bag at 30 dollar oil which may drop to 20. So the post isn't miss leading where will the growth come from, why did they raise the dividend one cent them turn around and cut it, why did the borrow and continue to borrow money to operate their business. I suggest you look into previous quarterly results and compare it to yesterday's quarterly results. Perhaps that will help you remember how Ryan lied to investors them turn around and cut the dividend.

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Post ID: @hxn+FN9qcFr

COP mgmt new excuse about "external market factors we can't control" is absurd. They were claiming all credit on the huge profits when oil was 100 and giving themselves huge paychecks - like Ryan's 27 mil in 2015.

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Post ID: @cnc+FN9qcFr

Your post is highly misleading. ConocoPhillips, like every other company didn't expect the downturn to last this long, which is why the dividend didn't get cut last year. Second, COP took out debt once in 2015 during the 2nd quarter, which happens to be exactly how much cash the company currently has on hand. Finally and since you're such a magnificent economist, you might wanna rethink your 4.4% logic. Most of these companies are about to either completely eliminate the dividend or cut it in half or more at the very least.

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Post ID: @dru+FN9qcFr

ConocoPhillips is a total failure. Nothing get solved in ConocoPhillips everybody is waving hands pretending they know things..."the know how?" The company is all BS run by s**t management. That's what you get when you have this lethal combination. "A big failure"

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