Thread regarding Whole Foods Market Inc. layoffs

If we unionize now, would we save jobs?

I promise I'm not a Union shill. I've heard a lot of horror stories from ex Union members, but I've also heard positive ones. Whole Foods has been becoming less and less the company I've known, in which most of us thought, "I'm treated so well, why would I want a Union?" The mismanagement and heartlessness these layoffs were handled with has made me realize it's only going to get worse.

I'm still not convinced I'd want a Union, I need to look deeper into it, but I was wondering to those who are familiar with Unions. Assuming the next large round of layoffs and restructuring is coming in January, would that be enough time to unionize a store(s)? If stores were unionized, would it end up saving jobs?

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hey they wouldnt do this at Kroger with it's Union. js. If a company GETS a Union..they deserved it.

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Former TL here.

My father was with the CWA union until the day he died. Toward the end of his life, his job was eliminated and he was forced to apply for a new job in the company against all of his other coworkers. He wound up getting a position, but at a $5 an hour pay cut.

I worked as a cashier at a union grocery store about ten years ago. Union dues were twice your hourly wage once a month (so if you make $10 an hour, you'd pay the union $20 once a month). We were ineligible for a pay raise until we had reached a certain number of service hours based off of your current rate of pay. Sundays didn't count towards service hours, so you'd make an extra $1 an hour (depending on your location, I guess that varies anywhere to an extra 25 cents to $1). We had to punch out for our 12 minute breaks. In order to avoid giving us unpaid lunch breaks, we'd be scheduled to work for 7 hours and 45 minutes. Any time I hired a new TM from a union grocery store, I'd ask them about their experiences. Doesn't sound like much has changed in those ten years: the staff was still underpaid and not compensated when they learned a new skill or took on extra responsibilities because they weren't at that magical number of service hours to warrant a pay increase and Sundays still don't count towards service hours. We weren't actually given insurance cards; if you went to the doctor you had to bring in the bill and fill out some paperwork and send it in to someplace and they'd take care of it from there - very complicated and a lot of work just to pay for a routine check-up and I have no idea about any kind of emergency situations. We also didn't get holiday pay for working on holidays. Instead we had to be there for our scheduled shift before the holiday and our scheduled shift after the holiday and we'd get 4 hours at time and a half pay. So if you worked your shift on Easter vs someone who didn't have to work on Easter and you both worked your scheduled shifts correctly, you'd both only get 4 hours of time and a half pay.

If anything, I could see a union come in and eliminate more positions rather than protecting the people who are there. There's no reason for there to be any more titles on a team than just a TL and an ATL, so all buyer, supervisor, team trainer, etc. positions would be cut (with a pay cut to boot) and the responsibilities would just fall back on the TL and ATL (which would mean even less time on the sales floor for them).

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Post ID: @Hpx+DKzgCSo

Leadership is not covered by unions either. In my store the majority of the people laid off were team leaders.

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Post ID: @lFA+DKzgCSo

We need a union if we want to stay full time with benefits. I was a cashier with another company. Union dues were $3 and we recieved amazing health insurance. Every year at WFM the UHC deductible keeps getting higher and higher. It's almost like I am uninsured.

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Post ID: @QAZ+DKzgCSo

The point was not to need a union. WFM was supposed to have a higher standard of business conduct. We were to have each other's backs. Instead global leadership was corrupted by the desire for unbridled profit. All the foundations, community outreach and giving was not going to solve a huge ethical business problem. We built the wrong size stores in the wrong place for the wrong clientele. We allowed vendors to dictate instead of negotiate terms to our procurement teams. We allowed store leadership to deteriorate in tyranny. All for profit; which in itself, well managed, brings prosperity. Instead it was squandered.

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"Unions will do nothing for you other than take your money and get you set raises at timed intervals." I spoke with a fellow TM today who has a spouse in the union and they did not characterize it that way at all. Is there not better job security under union conditions? I can relate very much with what the original post says.

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Post ID: @wUR+DKzgCSo

A&P is union and was bought out and being unionized didn't mean a damn thing for them. Unions will do nothing for you other than take your money and get you set raises at timed intervals.

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