Thread regarding Corinthian Colleges Inc. layoffs

82200 -- You must not understand how the taxing agencies and taxing bodies operate at the state and local level. Distribution of tax dollars is not based on the dollar level paid in. The distribution back is based on need. In many cases, inner city locations and economically challenged areas receive in access of 3 to 4 times what is paid in. However, the tax support that a community college receives does not matter in this case. The simple fact is that all community colleges are subsidized by the state and local government. This support is what creates the false perception that the community college is cheaper. In theory, the community college is not cheaper -- it cost more. The burden of the decreased costs are carried by all of the taxpayers and there is no return on the investment. In the case of title 4 the taxpayer is making a loan (that collects interest) and is paid back. Even with the higher default rates -- the title 4 option is a much better investment than the community college scenario.

Anonymous82374 -- believe it or not, it's our managers and up who might end up at bk. they are pieces of work, and very well might be unemployable elsewhere. seriously. but the rest of the staff really are professional and hard working. we also take care of each other. as there have been lay-offs (which started two years ago) we've been supporting each other with job references and leads once we get new jobs. sorry if it makes you mad, but us reps have been doing just fine as we leave, for whatever reason. i'm leaving for citi where i'll be joining a fairly large cci ex-pat population. only one rule - do not let cci managers in!!!

Anonymous82374: You've obviously never worked at one of our campuses. We're educated and professional (at least much more so than the bored trolls like you who come to visit). When we do leave, we tend to get really good jobs. We have good resumes, good references, and made a lot of money. We also interview well because we're excellent communicators. Those are what qualifies you for higher level jobs. Say Burger King over and over if you like. None of us will ever end up there. We know the corporate world and navigate it well. The non-profit colleges are also moving strongly toward consumer-centric operations, and we are in demand with them. Why hire some public worker, union type ("duh....I'm about to go on break....uh....come back later....duh") when you can hire one of us? The lesson isn't lost on the public sector, who have been crippled by smaller budgets, more demanding students, and a dated, tortoise paced workforce. So shout out your bizarre little fantasies as strenuously as you want. We'll just be amused by your tantrums.

Yeah whatever, suck it bitches.. Tell yourself whatever you have to while you get laid off for destroying thousands of lives and f***ing over the taxpayers. Better luck at your next job, maybe burger king will hire self professed 'instructors' at minimum wage. If you're lucky, you might be able to move to a state that actually pays over $10/hr!

Anonymous82326: I'm pretty liberal myself, but nut jobs like Camden Kid scare me as well. Firstly, his barely disguised income redistribution agenda makes us look like friggin' idiots to right-wingers, even the ones who AREN'T Rush Limbaugh-listening, Fox New-watching mouth breathers. Secondly, no I do NOT want to live in a country where a student can make the choice, as an adult, to attend a college, then take out loans to live off of instead of working her way through, then actually complete the program and get a job in the field, then decide that it's MY job to pay for it. She's not my friggin' daughter! I don't give a CRAP about this woman or any of the others. I'll pay taxes to provide food stamps so their children won't starve, but I am not the hell paying the lazy bastards' debts for them! And screw Camden Kid. Is that guy a loser or what? Jesus!

"They're all gonna laugh at you" - Yeah, I think we've seen your posts before (pretty distinctive style, dumbass). What is always amazing about them is the content (for want of a better word) - they always seem to be intent on stating that the other posters are vile, rude, ignorant, and basically socially undesirable. But I ask you this - how could anyone's post seem that way after reading one of yours? Seriously, you're pretty gross and unhinged. I believe that you are Camden Kid when he can't control his outbursts and doesn't want them associated with his name. Clue #1 -- they are all supportive and complimentary toward him. That makes no sense unless you're CK.

Funny to read all these greedy dick suckers railing on someone they don't even know. When the sunshine starts illuminating the cockroaches, they all hiss and scurry. Keep up the good work CK, these losers really make their school look great with how venomous and confrontational they get when faced with the facts of how terrible their industry is and how much it has been ripping off students and taxpayers. Go find a real job, losers! Someone laying around at home masturbating on the couch contributes more to society than you welfare sucking leeches.

Yeah the public system sucks, the for profit sector sucks much, much worse.

educating (damned auto-correct!)

There's no education Camden Kid. He's an aging Baby Boomer who never outgrew the simplistic liberal philosophies of the sixties and seventies. He knows his views aren't popular (but can't imagine that it would be for good reasons) so he's careful to try to disguise his intent. He presents the Corinthian 15 (ex-students who everyone remembers were the WORST EVER) as poor, hard working, honest folks who just want to have a job and contribute to society. But if you read his posts carefully he has a full-blown income redistribution (from our hard working asses to his lazy ass) - eg he says ALL education should be free and unlimited, including taxpayer provided living expenses. When he casually mentions that we should legally seize Jack's mansion and give it to the stupid, lazy Corinthian 15, he means it literally. He can really imagine a day when HE is living in a mansion despite being unemployable in a labor competitive market. We should probably just all agree to ignore his posts and avoid clicking on them at all. It doesn't matter what kind of attention we give him, since he's delusional. He loves it all!

me again - oops, one link didn't work. Here it is: http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Good-Evil-Philosophy-Editions/dp/048629868X

Camden Kid: Yes, I know you're loving all of this attention and I probably shouldn't feed it. However, the thought occurred to me that you might appreciate some reading material to pass the time in your current situation. Here are a few suggestions: http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Good-Evil-Friedrich-Nietzsche/dp/1503250881/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1426600572&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=neitchze+slave (he was such a great writer as well as philosopher!)

http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Shrugged-Ayn-Rand/dp/0452011876/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426600540&sr=8-1&keywords=ayn+rand (might as well have read the book before forming opinions, eh?)

300: I'm becoming more and more convinced that CK has a buttload of student loans from his "career student" decades and is looking for a way to get out of them. It's pretty clear from his words - he talks about income distribution, that all education should be free, and that there should be exceptions for (underemployed and disable" people (of which he is both). This asshole is just trying to get himself more of the tax dollars that we earned. Pathetic is right.

God, I wish Camden Kid would just go away. He just keeps mooing and whining out the same, tired old ramblings. Everything he says is some kind of self-deluding, self-aggrandizing clichéd nonsense (like that we "victimize veterans, single mothers, underemployed people, immigrants, and people with disabilities"). The sad thing is, despite his questionable academic and work history, I'll bet this guy considers himself to have above average intelligence. It would be sad, but he's just an annoying, willfully ignorant little pest who spends his day intentionally annoying fully engaged members of society. Pathetic and creepy!

Victimize? It has been shown over and over.. If you attend school and put in aneffort to learn you WILL find a job.. Plain and simple.. If you sign up to take the stipend and only show up two days a week and leave at break.. you WILL fail.. Without the stipend 90% of the programs cost less than a new car (which I see plenty in the student lot each day) No victims here.. Just people that were given a chance they could get nowhere else and they F(&*(_) it up!

Oh, the self-righteousness of a bunch of people who make their living off of tax-payer backed loans and shifty salesmanship. Of course CCi employees can't stand traditional education and our public education system: what the f*** would any of you have to contribute at a real school?

Camden -- your comment "the failure of US education should not an excuse". That summarizes what is wrong with everything that you attack and find opportunity with. This is what the issue is with Haperlin, Durbin and all the others that act as if they are defending the faithful. The root cause is with our traditional education model. However, it is never discussed and it is never addressed. The only reason that CCI -- or the equivalent exists -- is due to the fact that others have failed horribly at educating the masses. What we have done is found a political scape goat. By doing so -- the feed good doers can stand and shout that we have done something for the improvised and the disadvantaged. When in fact nothing has been addressed within the scope of root cause; nothing has changed for those that are so easily forgotten. They will wake up tomorrow, attend a crappy K thru 12 school and then will need to attend a crappy community college that does not have the resources -- nor to they care -- to address their specific needs.

I am not defending CCI in any way shape of form. If they screwed the pooch -- hang the executives out to dry. However, as of yet -- I have not heard anything presented or found that defines systemic corruption across the company.

Your argument falls apart because it's based on a single untrue assumption: that lots of tax money is spent in the inner cities, where many CCi students come from. If your premise is wrong, you're going to come to wrong conclusions. Very little tax money goes to these areas because these areas have very little tax base from which to draw.

I know that not all Corinthian Colleges workers think or act the same. In fact, librarian Laurie McConnell was a hero for blowing the whistle on Everest. There were several other Corinthian College workers who wrote to me and provided credible information about fraudulent and unethical practices, risking their jobs. I'm sorry that management, by and large, refused to listen to their most ethical workers.

Lawyers and lazy people behind it. If you take on a debt, pay it back. That is what has ruined the country. Boo hoo hoo....I pissed away all my money so I'll file bankruptcy. The problem here is that Uncle Sam made sure these winners couldn't use that old trick with student loans. Gotcha!

Camden Kid-you don't have a clue. I challenge you to walk in to any Everest and apply for a job and work in one of their respective departments. I highly recommend either Academics or Career Services. Maybe, if you did the job for a bit you may have some credibility. Until then, stop writing and stoking a dying flame. Your comments have been unfounded, and based on speculation from people that are ambulance chasers.

@ Camden Kid - you do realize the vast majority of the responsibility is on the students. No one forced them to sign up for classes regardless of the sorry stories we read about. Now the lies and deception on behalf of CCI is another issue which may have contributed but the responsibility is on the students who signed up for their education.

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!

You make some good very points. But the failure of US education should not be an excuse by Corinthian Colleges to victimize veterans, single mothers, underemployed people, immigrants, and people with disabilities.