Thread regarding Corinthian Colleges Inc. layoffs

What Actually Happens When You Don’t Pay Your Loans?

It’s important to consider the ramifications of going on a student loan strike.

“I’m not sure we have anyone who’s going to get hurt except the people striking,” said Joshua Cohen, a student loan lawyer based in Vermont. “In order for this strike to really work, everyone would have to be untouchable.”

Before you sign up to join ranks with the Corinthian 15, consider what may very well happen if you default on a federal student loan, either intentionally or otherwise.

The government can send a debt collector after you. It can garnish your wages. If you have no wages, the government can (and most likely will) go after you once you start making money. The delinquencies, default and collection activity will do serious damage to your credit, making it difficult to rent a home, set up utilities and secure affordable rates on car insurance. (You can see how your student loans and any other debts are affecting your credit by getting a free credit report summary on Credit.com.) There also may be a variety of fees associated with these different scenarios, as well as interest that will continue to accrue on the loan, making your overall debt load even greater and more difficult to tackle. Furthermore, federal student loan debt is generally not dischargeable in bankruptcy.

In short: Boycotting your federal student loans could amount to exchanging one financial hardship for another.

Ann Larson, one of the Debt Collective organizers, said she runs through the list of wage garnishment, losing federal benefits, credit damage and everything else associated with default, and then she asks if the person understands the default rehabilitation process, which is a long, difficult undertaking. She said many people she talks to have been in default for years. “This is not something new to them. They are already experiencing the consequences.”

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Anonymous81430: What I want to know is what you see when you picture a "Welfare Pajama Mama" and her "Garbage Kid." I see Mama June and Honey Boo Boo (of course, who wouldn't?), but I have a very bad feeling that's not the same as what you see. You DO know that white trash are the majority of welfare recipients? And study after study has shown that it's MUCH easier to get a job if you're white. For example, there's a 50% higher callback rate for resumes when the name sounds white instead of African-American (http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html). Note that the resumes were the EXACT same. So why do we have these massive herds of white, sloppy, overweight, welfare hicks? Maybe the best way to deal with them IS to see their children as sub-human, so we can be ready to do what we need to when we decide to take out the trash. What do you think? Are you onboard?

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like a (auto-correct, and that was sort of a funny one!)

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Anonymous81430: Jeez, I hope you're the same racist guy we've been making fun of on other threads, otherwise it's getting to be lick a HickFest around here! So, American children are dehumanized in your mind (they start out not as "children" but as "food stamp kids" and then become "garbage kids"). Do you get the impression that you're...uh...more honest in expressing your opinions on an anonymous website than, say, in public? Isn't that a pretty clear sign that you're a fringe nutcase? Your views (and your kind) aren't welcome in our society because all of the rest of us (a vast majority) have decided that they are beneath our minimum standards. We don't even really consider you a special peer (kind of how you view children as garbage, if you think about it). Yeah, keep rantin' and ragin' and watch how this country changes in the next 5-10 years. Republicans are sick of fighting the losing battles of social conservatism (anti-abortion, anti-welfare, anti-immigration, anti-gay) and their corporate masters have no interest in it, only in lower taxes for the 1% and corporations. You can't have been liking what you've seen these past 10 years. Well, hold on to your britches! It's gonna be a wild ride. Fun as hell for me, but more than a little bumpy for you. One thing to seriously keep in mind through this -- ANTI-DEPRESSANTS (don't go all Limbaugh with them, though).

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Damn, if you people really work there then it is no wonder your so called 'students' perform so poorly. If YOU have no grasp of Math, English, or Economics then how the hell would your students?

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When you don't pay you loan jail is waiting for you at some point. I however, believe that the root of the problem is much deeper and it starts when the welfare pajama mamas roll out of bed to take their food stamp kids to school. The only time the pajama welfare mama visits the school is to argue with teachers and administrators about the bad behavior of her garbage child.!the garbage child is now socially promoted to graduation and joins mom in the wonderfull world of welfare in which hard working people pay taxes to keep giving these pajama people more food stamps to by T bone steak and jumbo shrimp. They now enroll at Everest to collect more money from the government and they can't read or write. The piraña mama is now pajama grandmother with more food stamps available. Nowhere in their life the world "RESPONSIBILTY" ever came up. Food stamps and welfare and how to milk the system is their expertise Go 15 rebels!!!! Pay your bill and move on. Introduce RESPONSIBILITY, HONOR, WORK, and RESPECT in you lives. This may be a good start for a positive change in your lives.

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Anonymous79863: Well, we were thinking you were kind of a loser before, but that post cleared it right up. Color us impressed with your intelligence, literacy, and wit. Bravo, sir, bravo!

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Post ID: @1JLI+AsPxPON

Nope wrong again, I'm your mom's lover. But don't worry, I give it to her in the back door like she likes. She even licks it clean after, why couldn't you losers have learned to clean up after yourselves the same way?

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0020: His post smacks of tween, but the Courtney Love reference suggests late 40's - 50's. I'm thinking he's someone old but socially extremely awkward, like...Camden Kid?!?

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Anonymous79863 -- WTH? And just how old are you?

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Not your boyfriend CK, but you guys should give up - even Courtney Love wouldn't give you guys the time of day. I get that you're bitter and sad about the forced shutdown of your greedy little con game but you guys should go find some new jobs before trying to date CK, even he's got standards and you guys frankly smell bad.

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905: What Camden Kid fails to get, since he's only ever worked in the public sector, is that there are no "piece of shit degrees." Most employers, including most law enforcement agencies, put a lot more weight on the candidate's resume and interview than the college that they went to. Bright, articulate people can always get jobs, and move up once they have them. Willfully ignorant, lazy, disgruntled types are going to be left to the fast food industry, whether they went to Everest or Harvard (obviously they could not get into Harvard, but I think you get my point). There is absolutely no reason my tax dollars should go to paying $60K of this woman's debt because she's intentionally unemployable.

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Ha ha! "When they start garnishing ten million people's wages, you can be sure the shit will hit the fan." Oh, Camden Kid! What do you imagine is going to happen? Some Marxist fantasy about all of the put-upon folks who just want simple lives of leisure and not to have to pay their debts springing into action and rebelling? An armed revolt? Wonder how that would work out with our militarized police? Just stop advising them to ruin their lives and starting telling them to buckle down and pay their debts. Is LaTonya even working? What, she got a 4-year degree in Criminal Justice (along with four years of living off the taxpayer) and can't get hired as a ...cop? Are you trying to tell us that they're really, really picky? No black females need apply? What about other jobs? Is working at a restaurant beneath her? Seriously?

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Camden Kid: Whoa, calm down there buddy! WE are the ones who have worked at career colleges and know these students. YOU never have, and it's clear to us that you have no knowledge of our culture or student body every time you put pen to paper (well, type on your keyboard). Let me reiterate an excellent point that's been made that we can all relate to: (1) our programs are designed and taught at a 6th grade level, (2) most of our students work full-time and some work FT, go to school, AND are single parents, (3) students who have applied themselves have done very well, and regularly than us for our commitment and efforts toward them, (4) then you have the Corinthian 15, graduating with tens of thousands more in debt than their programs cost. It doesn't sound like they had a tremendous amount of responsibilities. The "shit hitting the fan" is just going to be the majority of us (responsible, accountable for our choices) deciding that we're fed up with the freeloaders and ending their little scams. I'm a lifelong Democrat, but I have no tolerance for LaTonya and the rest of them. Nasty, lazy little pieces of work, who made their instructors' and administrators' lives living hell and never had any intention of becoming productive citizens. Much LESS paying anyone back for the loans they took out. Now what do you have to say to that? let me guess, it's going to be more whiny, vague, emotional claptrap, isn't it? Camden Kid, you are just an annoyance. You really need to stay off this site.

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Post ID: @kj7+AsPxPON

Corinthians 15 is definitely full of religion, so maybe that is what motivated students? Or a Lawyer looking for a nice payout...

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What you dunces don't get, is they never had any choice. The jobs aren't out there for their worthless pile of shit degrees, the wages are not there, and the debt is just numbers on a spreadsheet. The taxpayer is taking the full hit not for 15 but for ten million students in the same boat, and when they start garnishing ten million people can you bet shit is going to hit the fan. You greed f***ers brought it all on yourselves and there is honestly no other way it could have played out. The writing is on the wall, deny it all you want but it is still there.

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The contention of the Corinthian 15 is that they were defrauded about job prospects ("gainful employment") and other material promises. What we also know is that in 2007, the California Attorney General's office had evidence of the fraud, and planned on suing Corinthian Colleges. At the last minute, Attorney General Jerry Brown made a deal with the company, giving Corinthian Colleges more room to continue the same business practices that they are being sued for today...........http://www.dailycensored.com/for-profit-college-news-corinthian-colleges-the-fraud-that-keeps-on-giving/

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Post ID: @n3c+AsPxPON

79744 hit the nail on the head! Home run!

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791 -- Camden Kid is a mystery to me as well. It seems as though he's never attended or worked at a career college (and he doesn't try to hide it). He seems to have started this whole crusade off because of concern over student debt, which leads me to wonder if he has a chunk of it to pay off himself. At some point, though, he decided that career colleges were not "real" schools and that it was his mission upon this Earth to close them all down. Also to inform their actually very well educated staffs that they are either evil monsters or dumb victims for working for a...BUM DA DUM...For-profit college!!! The IDEA of it! Oh, the humanity! We get a lot of nutters on this site. Some entertaining, some just annoying.

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I wonder what Camden Kid thinks about all this. He considers these idiots to be victims, and purports to be trying to help them. It's very obvious that this is just going to hurt them. Does he care? Do the ends justify the means? Is it all about getting attention and having something to do besides watching TV? Tell us, CK.

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The Mighty Corinthian Avengers! They are in boot-camp training and gonna bring you suckas DOWN! http://www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/wallpapers/2014/06/14/369008/big_thumb_38a9cfb608e430c26619bee8b40d89ee.jpg

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Wow, how brave of them! They never had any intention of paying back the loans they lived off of, they couldn't have even been bothered to complete deferment or forbearance applications. Yup, as we all thought -- they just ignored their responsibilities and let the loans slip into default. The only reason they're bothering with this "Corinthian 15" nonsense now (beyond the attention it's getting them) is that they've been actually experiencing consequences. No tax refund....waaaah! Yes, these are definitely the heroes of our age!

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