Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

I wonder how huge the Cisco H1-B scam is?

https://x.com/amandalouise416/status/1874885311186010391

You cannot layoff US citizens for H1 Bs.

If you have the right amount of money and power you can do anything you want. Laws are just there to control us little people.

60% of global jobs will be replaced by AI. It is called Structural Unemployment and it happened during the Great Depression. The technology of the day replaced workers with machines.

tomorrow, new jobs will be distributed into non-routine, well paid, highly skilled work and non-routine low paid semi-skilled work.
Technology has been a relatively well-paid profession but consists of routinised work that is easily replaced by AI (technological displacement)

Once the dam breaks on employment, expect a bloodletting in tech

...[people] will never say No and work 7 days a week.

Been there done that even without H-1Bs. Very few people can do this and sustain good work as that intensity often leads to desperation which leads to being too narrowly focused and with many big picture issues being ignored projects tend to crash and burn. A lot of startups that could have really changed things if they executed died this way. Cisco has a long trail of projects that have overrun by factors of as much as dozens in engineering hours (which do not account for overtime) because of this, and that doesn't even include the half decade of bug fixing after the code goes FCS.

Between the mortgage for big houses in the valley, the Tesla lease payments and sponsoring the rest of the big family to come to the US, (mostly) Indian H1B holders will never say No and work 7 days a week. That's what Cisco (and all other tech companies want). They will lobby for it and get it.

It is not just indians but all H1Bs from whole world thronged USA and took up the jobs of citizens where many indians were citizens and GC holders.
Even indian citizen kids are paying for the H1Bs. All their jobs are hijacked by H1Bs.
Freaking, our whole group in Cisco was trimmed and transitioned to white American leadership team who were doing nothing but eating Cisco money with no work.
Ideally, all these mafia has to stop and real working and dedicated people should be paid off.
Take Google or Tesla, all home makers who were sitting home and doing kitty parties and chatting on social media are onboarded in Google and Tesla. Pathetic state of IT job market with vested interests of hiring managers

I would love to see how many are engineering vs janitors or accountants and no skilled labor. This needs to end

https://x.com/amandalouise416/status/1874885311186010391
Cisco firing US employees to hire H1B’s. The data is there.

H1Bs are not underpaid in the US IT industry. The government makes sure of that.

Are you a complete muppet? This system has been gamed for DECADES

You cannot layoff US citizens for H1 Bs. Did you even understand the proposal? The idea is to keep jobs here and only hire eligible H1Bs and not abuse like every company has been

While an H-1B worker may appear cheaper initially due to the potential for lower base salaries, the overall cost of employing an H-1B worker is often not significantly less than a US-based resource when factoring in the legal fees, processing costs, and requirement to pay the prevailing wage, which means the employer must pay a salary comparable to what a US worker in the same position would earn in that location; therefore, saying an H-1B is "cheaper" is a complex issue and not always accurate.

H1-B is used by Cisco to underpay American workers and create chain migration from India

Looks like Elon has been abusing the criminal H1B program as well same as most companies. Cisco was also asking for H1B's same time the LRs are going on.

https://electrek.co/2024/12/30/tesla-replaced-laid-off-us-workers-with-foreign-workers-using-h-1b-visas-that-musk-want-to-increase/

a widely abused program that should be massively reformed, but no chance with the constant stream of wealthy tech execs pandering to Trump

without H1B, low-tier companies like Cisco would just relocate projects directly in low-cost regions

what Trump needs to do is mandate all Federal contracts be serviced only by US citizens; this would not stop H1B but would force companies away from fully terraforming their headcount

This has been a long time coming. Cisco is huge abuser of this system. Especially with the backdrop of constant layoffs.

Get rid of the program and my phone will be blowing up from recruiters. My son is choosing college degree now and I advised stay out of IT for this very reason. Americans are undercut by cheap indian labor coming here for all the top jobs, its been this way for years and I have seen entire departments cut and replaced with people who are as far from being tech geniuses as I have ever seen. even masters degree holders and high level certified H1B individuals from India I have know were total id--ts and makes you wonder if the degrees and certifications are fraudulent.

Cisco will have to pay the tariffs on hardware and will have to increase its prices to the customers. Buckle up.

H1Bs are not underpaid in the US IT industry. The government makes sure of that. Unless the work is off shored there is very little gain. Thing is if they su-ked in india, mx, or any other hole, what does bringing that to the US change? Nothing but society.

The underpay is to get them in the door and in no time they will raise their wages. If your position is in India, your job is on the line.

"Why would they underpay friends and family?"

Chain immigration from India is a huge upgrade

The H1-B visas are a blatant form of nepotism since many are friends and family of current Cisco employees

Why would they underpay friends and family?