Thread regarding Saudi Aramco layoffs

Post from TheLayoff.com

Thank you for your words. N

Sure, a low performer would be the one to complain about the process of being released from service, go figure… those who are talking about resigning will not, they know that they will never have it better anywhere else they go.

Nothing but peons…

If India was a successful labor, education, and economic paradise they would have figured out sewer systems by now. You know - sort of like the Romans did 2,000 years ago.

A lawsuit is only viable in the US, in the Magic Kingdom it will hardly achieve anything

Yeah, it is like you have passed or have some communicable disease. No one knows you, wants to associate with you or be seen with you.

The Exit Process is very professional and pleasant.

I worked with many US expats. I consider them mentors. My father worked with US expats and always said great things. They always had a good influence on the company. Think about what the company would be like if they never were, or gone?? Admit it, we take credit for all they do, so why would anyone see how they help us unless they work with them. It makes me sad to see negative comments about the expats and also hearing bad things about how the company is treating.

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The stock value is a joke anyway, rigged with only tiny amounts of daily liquidity on mickey mouse exchange.

When firms outsource they focus on areas that require low skill and can be automated. Removing highly skilled people and replacing them
With dullards isn’t outsourcing, it’s value destruction.

It’s ironic that Mr. CEO claimed in his new year message that Aramco’s strongest assets are its people.

You cannot stop the Economic Power of Outsourcing. The Company has a duty to protect shareholders’ interests by keeping the stock value high. Lowering Costs and Improving Efficiencies is not a gimmick, but a tried and true method for increasing shareholder value. All the talk about this mythical management inabilities / abilities is a waste of time. Outsourcing will continue; learn to deal with it.

I found this site just in time to reply to this.

It was NOT done in a professional manner, and anyone who thinks that is either the one doing it, or they're believing the lies being told to cover up how bad it is. I went through it, and they do nothing but lie and evade questions. They provide no information.

You'd think they'd have learned something in 2020, but clearly not. They've only gotten worse.

Anyone still hanging on should tighten the purse strings, book a repat ASAP, and don't count on the myhome calculations for layoffs. That number is a lie. I was warned about this by someone else and they were right. Don't trust anything they tell you, and if they try to tell you something, demand it in writing, or go back yourself and summarize what you understood and ask them to confirm it in email. They won't, but you'll have evidence should you decide to file a suit.

Also, I want to address this story that it was only under performing expats let go. Everyone I know, including myself, was laid off after years of E/E+. I assumed after more than ten years, I'd be reasonably safe since I was a solid performer (yes, I know that was foolish in hindsight, but I had no reason to think otherwise).

I know of a handful of people let go who had an M in 2023, and those people had years of E/E+ before that, but had something happen with management in 2023 that made it clear someone knew these were coming, and they were posturing to get people on a list without consequences. Sure there were likely some under performers, but it's really odd that suddenly a bunch of people were rated as "low performers" just in time to get laid off when there have been people getting Ms for years, especially right after a promotion.

The Company is saying —
“We Appreciate Your Service and Wish You the Best as You Move Forward into the Next Chapter in Your Life.”

The laid-off employee is saying —
“What’s it going to be, Chapter 11 or 13 Bankruptcy.”

The Company’s response —
“Who Cares?”

It appears that the Company is treating people in a professional manner. I wish you the best.

Thanks to my U.S. Employee Savings Plan, the Generous Aramco RIP, Retiree Medical Plan and the fact I have no debt or mortgage due to my pay package and living in Kingdom within my means; despite my family and I traveling extensively the past 15+ years using solely our generous annual repat allowance; I can be laid off today, and will smile all the way home. Until that occurs, I merely accrue more wealth each month, and smile.

U.S. Expatriates need not worry, as they are well-qualified Dumpster-Divers that can tolerate years of unemployment.

Please, please, please!!! It would be wonderful entertainment to watch the Magic Kingdom fail if Aramco rids themselves of all US expats! But please, don't stop there! Rid the Kingdom of all Western expats and Western contractors across Aramco, Sabic, NEOM, medical, military, etc.....across the board! Give these trolls ....errr.... thobes what they want! And, if the West was smart, they would rid themselves of all Saudi students. Thank you thobe for allowing me to dream of giving you want you want....happy days watching you flail!

It is hoped that, in the Company’s infinite wisdom, they rid themselves of the very expensive U.S. Expatriates during 2025. Make a clean sweep of these inept slackers by giving them a Good Ole Australian Boot.

Happy New Year everyone.

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“the U.S. Expatriates should learn to keep their mouths shut”

This is the internet and not some KSA prison where you lock up and chop chop anyone that has an opinion you dislike.

What is your actual considered opinion on anything?

What is the reason for the vindictive attitude towards the Company?

What is the reason for the vindictive attitude towards the expat employees ?

Trump is already talking about getting back the Panama Canal, how long before he includes Aramco? Layoffs should be interesting if that happens!

It is very true that, in the pre-1979 era, the Company was built for American Interests only. During this period, Reservoir Management was poorly executed due to profiteering efforts led by U.S: companies. Post-1979 era created the Saudi Arabian Oil Company (Saudi Aramco), but the continued lack of good Reservoir Management accelerated and resources were squandered by the continued practice of hiring subpar U.S. Expatriates.

There are still too many U.S. Expatriates fleecing the Company coffers at the Kingdom’s expense. They appear to think that they are still needed, but cannot produce any valid evidence that they have ever provided any “value-added-services” to the KSA. All the Kingdom sees is talk, with no action.

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2025 will be a tough year for the world. With Middle East being in chaos, Europe preparing for war, let’s see how geopolitics will affect the KSA. Knowing historically how Arabs swing and tend to flip over night during hard times, with a military that is a joke… remember the wisdom words of JFK you have quoted below when sh-t hits the ceiling so you would not be invaded… while begging for Americans to protect you whom has discovered the oil and built this company that you in essence have inherited…

One certainty, don't count on anything professional or honest from Aramco.

Taking lectures from locals on work ethic. Is this some kind of attempt at humour? Did you forget to take your meds?

A lot of the U.S. expatriates should defer to their own history in following the great advice of the late President John F. Kennedy:

“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.”

Revise this great philosophical quote to read:

“Ask not what your Company can do for you; ask what you can do for your Company.”

Had the now-disgruntled expatriates showed a little more gratitude and a better work ethic, they would not be in the position that they are presently in.

Please consider thanking the Company for the time that you have had while living in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Chat GPT thobe is back.

How many KSA Aramco execs could get jobs at BP? Answer. Zero.

It is hoped that the Company rids themselves of the BP Neanderthals that came into our workplace; after being canned at BP in the States. The level of toxic theatrics of these low-performing slackers made it impossible to get anything done.

Outsourcing: Upgrading the workforce through layoffs to make room for more competent workers; Replacing the deadwood; Taking out the trash; Firing lazy troublemakers; Shutting the traps on the emotionally unstable; Culling the ranks of employees committing medical fraud; Making the Company more competitive; Increasing the appeal to investors.

Nobody has been laid off

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Absolute bunkum. Several friends with over a decades service were effectively fired with no notice and told to get their affairs in order to leave KSA. Some got the severance they were due. Others were told NOTHING and then lied to with claims about it being settled once they were out of KSA. I know of a few individuals fired because they were on medical leave (yes that’s right Aramco fired people because they are sick owing to the toxic culture and climate). The exit process is a joke a best. Many have instigated lawsuits stateside.

Those affected by the Outsourcing of the U.S. Expatriate labor-force are being replaced by well-educated workers from India.

In every case, the affected U.S. workers are given a generous compensation package for the temporary transition of their careers back to the U.S..

The outsourcing is being conducted in a very professional manner.