There is now a court precedent where tech companies can be held liable for unequal treatment of non-Indians in hiring, firing and promotion decisions. So if anyone reading this has been unfairly treated on the basis of their race, there is a good chance that you can successfully sue F5.
https://www.duanemorris.com/alerts/it_firm_found_liable_intentional_discrimination_against_class_terminated_non_indian_1024.html
No one escapes justice. Justice comes for everyone.
provided of course you have millions in the bank to pay the lawyers....
justice can only be achieved when one is wealthy....
I have to admit it's highly entertaining to see F5's public relations in full panic mode. If you can't stop F5 from being racist against non-Indians, might as well be a troll lol.
"The latest replies to this post have nothing to do with the original discrimination topic. "
Do you smell F5 AI bots? Ridiculously easy, randomly generated BS. Probably modelled from previous BS all-hands prophets' speeches.
[Verse 2]
They let you dream just to watch 'em shatter
You're just a step on the bossman's ladder
But you've got dreams he'll never take away
In the same boat with a lot of your friends
Waitin' for the day your ship'll come in
And the tide's gonna turn an' it's all gonna roll your way
[Chorus]
Working nine to five, what a way to make a livin'
Barely gettin' by, it's all takin' and no givin'
They just use your mind and you never get the credit
It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it
Nine to five, yeah, they got you where they want you
There's a better life and you think about it don't you
It's a rich man's game no matter what they call it
And you spend your life puttin' money in his wallet
Nine to five, what a way to make a livin'
Barely gettin' by, it's all takin' and no givin'
They just use your mind and they never give you credit
It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it
Nine to five, yeah, they got you where they want you
There's a better life and you think about it don't you
It's a rich man's game no matter what they call it
And you spend your life puttin' money in his wallet
[Verse 1]
Tumble out of bed and I stumble to the kitchen
Pour myself a cup of ambition
And yawn and stretch and try to come to life
Jump in the shower and the blood starts pumpin'
Out on the street, the traffic starts jumpin'
With folks like me on the job from nine to five
[Chorus]
Workin' nine to five, what a way to make a livin'
Barely gettin' by, it's all takin' and no givin'
They just use your mind and they never give you credit
It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it
Nine to five, for service and devotion
You would think that I would deserve a fair promotion
Want to move ahead but the boss won't seem to let me
I swear sometimes that man is out to get me
Mmmm
The latest replies to this post have nothing to do with the original discrimination topic. Keep replies focused to the topic, which is a very serious concern, if you look at the senior leaders within Engineering.
Are you not using the mental health benefits we provide? You really should. A therapist would tell you this is not healthy.
If you work here and hate it, leave. Why would you stay? Seriously, why are you here?
If you were laid off, why are you spending your time on your past? It won’t change a thing. Move on.
Welcome to the conversation Francois or F5 PR team. It is very transparent that you all are concocting unhinged dialogue (starting with the "F5 is trash" post), to detract from legitimate concerns being voiced in this forum. It's the oldest trick in the book. It would be a better use of your time to build products and services that customers want to buy.
Extremely healthy. Keep it up. Maybe spend all your free time complaining to absolutely no one in power to fix your life.
Maybe take some personal responsibility for once. Stop blaming your life on others that frankly don’t give a sh!t about you.
I think talking sm--k about a sh---y org is therapy. You don’t have to be here reading it, bootlicker.
“F5 is trash.”
Definitely a good use of your time.
Maybe push back from the keyboard and take a walk. Apply for a job, preferably without all the pent up rage if possible.
The tide is turning the other way, not just at F5 but across the industry and across the country. It's time to say no to F5 employees who think it's ok to hire and promote based on race, country of origin or visa status.
"The public needs to know that F5 hires and promotes based on race and nationality rather than on merit"
Sadly, it's not only F5. Try to apply to other companies. The first questions they ask in the workday application form are your pronoun, your race, and your identity. Yet, they claim how "equal" they are. White caucasian male? Well, forget about the job. Colorful clown? Come on, you are in. Some time ago, these practices were illegal. The tech world is rotten.
It takes courage to stand up and take action. It will be the first step in regaining the dignity they tried to take, and getting back on the path to personal development and growth. The public needs to know that F5 hires and promotes based on race and nationality rather than on merit, and that nepotism is rampant at all levels.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread and helped me gather more info on this topic. Since my original question in this thread, I have since retained a lawyer, Joel Waelty, and am looking over my options for racial discrimination and made sure he was aware of the DuaneMorris court precedent .
More of the same cronyism in San Jose with that new reorg email.
Looks like F5 San Jose politics & discrimination is at a different level .!!
we all know what happened in their devision. a pure strategy failure. they don't want to resign.
is it possible to hire successful leaders? anyone who achieved anything significant in the last year or so? why do we have to stay with these loosers?
they failed and its us to fill the quarterly goals!
they should go , because of bad work done.
“ I have never heard anyone mention a single good thing about any of those three. How the fu-k are they still employed?”
Those three are not the only few. whole chain of management under them, including few architects are part of the same dirty game. One, recruited his/her buddy. That person then recruited his/her buddies ignoring the most qualified ones. Folks raised up the ladder only he/ she is from the same region of the world as his upper management.
Every Indian upper management is responsible for this.
I have never heard anyone mention a single good thing about any of those three. How the fu-k are they still employed?
“ The role went to an external applicant who moved here from India.‘
Non-management roles (Indians or non-Indians) in the US are gradually being moved to India because of the managers or VPs here who are Indians. Their only priority is to show a profit on the balance sheet, even if it means laying people off, f**k the company as much as possible, find another management role in another company and repeat the process.
So, lower-level US-based employees (Indian (H1, GC holders, or US Citizens) or non-Indians) all go through the same discrimination because of these selfish VPs (Sachi, Rekha, Dinesh.. to name a few)
That class action lawsuit is interesting for two reasons:
The role went to an external applicant who moved here from India.
Let me guess: micro-managing, sycophantic toady from the same region as someone in his management chain.
"F5 management here in US is controlled by folks from southern part of India"
Sadly, not only F5, the entire IT, here is the research:
https://www.brightworkresearch.com/how-indians-planned-the-takeover-of-the-us-it-market/
How can I prove this though? I’m a white female SE III in SJ CA who was passed over for a lucrative manager spot earlier this year because I wasn’t “a person of color”, recruiter’s words. The role went to an external applicant who moved here from India.
To be very specific, F5 management here in US is controlled by folks from southern part of India. If you study bit deep, if you from other parts of India, your hope to grow is very limited. Higher managing pull folks from their on region. Don’t believe, just checkout.
bigip is the same. diversity!!!!
I am sure those guys don't see the need in work resources but HYD and Bangalore. they ask each other - why should we pay more?
Oh, like SDC and XC?
There are organizations within F5 where the entire management layer are composed of first-generation immigrants from India. The statistical likelihood of managers in Europe and the US all being from one country in South Asia, without there being a racial bias in hiring and promotion, is more than one in a trillion.
They’re filling some of the jobs with H1B but mostly straight up outsourcing. My team went through several rounds of layoffs. Each time they cut US based employees and a few months later they hired someone based in India. Just look at the job board and filter the openings based on location.
It's about time to confront the Indian IT Camorra.