What if the mechanical employees at the UP were to join together as a group and tell the executives that they’re not going to force us to work overtime? We could maybe build an association of sorts that stands up for our rights and fund it by taking monthly dues from its members who are benefitted by our power working as a group. What in the world could we call that? Any ideas?
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UP managers are the d-mbest people UP can find…you ask them a question they don’t know you report an unsafe issue they don’t know you ask for supplies to do your job they don’t know get rid of this wasteful payroll and send them on their way to TTX
What if we did nothing and just let the executives take the company down by themselves? They have a great start to that! There's no point in calling the ethics or safety hotline, especially when it's run by the management that's causing the problems! The stock price is struggling to go anywhere. It goes up, then it floats back down to where it started. Vena and his executives made this mess. There's no point in putting yourself on there radar by calling in for ethics or safety issues, and then giving them someone to blame later on when it goes to sh-t! Sit back, relax, and just let the management do what they want. We all know the management at the UP is useless. Just give it time, because they don't need our help in bringing the company down.
sorta interesting stating the ethics line works eventually. The 5-6 times Ive seen something or someone reported to the ethics line nothing changed, nothing happened, no one ever said or did anything. One of those times the reporter called the ethics line again at a later date to report nothing was said , addressed, or done and again nothing was done. Once a coworker made a serious ethics line report anonymously and a director called the employee personally and told that employee he was gonna “take care of it”. After that I stopped trusting ever having any anonymity. Maybe you meant call the ethics line if its an agreement employee who made a violation, maybe if it isnt a manager then the company might act ethically?
San Antonio and Del Rio and SOOSAN are foggott terminals with ho-o mesicans
It will not change until PI reportables to the FRA increase due to the unsafe nature of forcing employees to complete assigned work to employees that do not have the adequate training and harassment free workplace that is mandatory!
Also every time you are forced on overtime call and file complaints to the ethics hotline. It does work eventually!
Stay safe , but report every scratch you get! Or you will be disciplined for non- compliance!
Too many softy young guys with annal hymens still to break
Car4's in kc weren't doing OT so they brought in rail crew......
The real question is, what would Krunk do??
@vmt Did you actually read a contract or did you just guess? The unions do not in any way have authority over any company in regards to staffing levels. The staffing levels are controlled by the companies and it's business levels. Read a contract and little harder next time.
@vmt according to you the union is obligated to provide adequate manpower? So if there is not an adequate amount of employees the union has the ability to increase the amount of employees and the carrier will just agree and pay for it? Wow has that been the problem this whole time? Its the UNIONS who can add to the headcount and not the carrier? Why hasn't someone stated this earlier?
There are 3 types of managers at UP. One is the stupid ones. Two are the type who are also d-mb but also they are terrified of their boss and dont have the courage to ever tell the truth bcuz they are afraid the truth will anger their manager. Third is the ones who are smart enough to see the problem and know they are understaffed but they dont care. They stay quiet, they do the bare minimum, they go with the flow, and they dont care about the company, they dont care about their employees, they dont care if someone gets hurt, they look at everyday they themselves werent fired as a win. And that is why UP is sc--wed up, bcuz of bad, lazy, stupid managers.
Say yes to overtime, just do minimum. There's always another shift... :-)
I support "quiet quitting"
A waste of time! It's a nice idea, but would never happen. The mechanical OT is just another way for management to get the critical rule write-ups they need to fill the quota they say they don't have. What they need to do is get rid of or take a deeper look at the senior management layers that really isn't needed. Quit following people around and writing them up/punishing them for an incident that NEVER EVEN HAPPENED! If the topic of this debate is "what if", then I'd say it doesn't get any closer than that. The biggest problem at the UP is that there's no set standards for anything. Everything is done to the standards set by the manager on duty at the time. What the UP NÈEDS to do is quit playing games! There's too many men and women there that aren't playing these games anymore! It's either that or they better start hiring more people to cover the vacancies left by the folks who are done with the games. That's something mechanical could tell the executives instead. They won't like that, but it'll definitely get their attention.
What disease, curse, or persistent train of thought makes it so that both the abused employees along w/ govt bureaucrats are FORCED to bring it to railroad managements attention that they should not and that leads to cannot force employees to either quit or work dangerous amounts of overtime? Why does train service and signal dept have to have the hours of service laws to prevent management from working those employees excessively? Why can't railroad management ever figure out that "hey wait a minute, we need more employees in order to get this amount of work done in this amount of time"? Are you managers seriously this stupid? What would happen if a direct supervisor followed the laws / rules and quit lying? These managers push for rushed temporary / incomplete repairs with numerous corners cut way more often than anything ever being done correctly and completely. Then some id--t manager either says " its always been this way" or "just shut up and do your job" or "if you guys would just do [blank]" ? Why can't one manager state the plain and obvious truth and actually try to address what is the huge underlying company wide problem?
The unions have an obligation to provide adequate manpower as needed for the carrier, as per the national agreement, including overtime. Next question ?
If you people who complain about working O.T. join together do your jobs correctly company woumd have to hire.Start where you can make a difference do your job correctly file claims and grievance make union do there job by filing aper work get legal representation and handle correctly.