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ESD thread exposing infra is gone. Any clue Why?

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The topic centers around growing concerns regarding the direction of NM under current leadership, with particular focus on potential outsourcing of app support and engineering to a GDP (Global Delivery Partner), as well as NM's ongoing collaboration with McKinsey. Employees are frustrated by a perceived shift away from innovation, with fears that leadership—especially DG (Chief Technology Officer)—is prioritizing cost-cutting and meeting long-term incentive payout goals rather than improving the company’s infrastructure or fostering meaningful change. Many feel that this focus on budget cuts comes at the expense of employee well-being and the overall effectiveness of the company’s operations. The situation is described as one driven more by fear and self-preservation than by a commitment to excellence or employee development.

A significant point of contention within the responses is the leadership of AR (VP of ICS) and the wider ICS (Infrastructure and Cloud Services) organization, which many employees criticize for inefficiency, lack of accountability, and wasteful spending. AR and his team are seen as responsible for multiple failed initiatives, including the J2C and Five Nine projects, which are regarded as costly debacles. The frustration with AR is compounded by allegations of nepotism, particularly involving "Bug Eyes," a nickname for a senior leader with supposed connections to USAA and a track record of ineffective hires and poor management decisions. Many employees express their discontent with the prioritization of personal interests over the company’s needs, particularly in how leadership has failed to address systemic issues in infrastructure.

Several replies emphasize that NM's leadership is out of touch with the real challenges facing the company, particularly regarding infrastructure and cloud services, which are seen as bloated, inefficient, and underperforming compared to industry standards. There's also widespread disillusionment with the idea of outsourcing, with employees arguing that the company has historically been quick to outsource work to the lowest bidder, often at the expense of quality and internal morale. Some speculate that McKinsey’s involvement in advising on outsourcing strategies could be part of a broader effort to slash labor costs without addressing the root causes of the company’s operational failures. The overall sentiment expressed in the replies is one of deep frustration, as employees feel trapped in an environment where incompetent leadership continues to make costly mistakes without facing any consequences, while the company’s long-term viability is put at risk.

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Post ID: @7wkn+1vJDgQWm

VC is fake

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Post ID: @7aiv+1vJDgQWm

Look, I hate ICS bloat too, but what is this bs about connecting to the wifi? I've never ever had issues with wifi here.

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Post ID: @6wmr+1vJDgQWm

I don’t see AA’s report VC on the list of incompetent leaders. What are your thoughts on VC replacing AA?

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Post ID: @6wrn+1vJDgQWm

Ah the project failure feels reminiscent of current high budget kanguva movie flop...

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Post ID: @4jgh+1vJDgQWm

I easily connect to nearby buildings WiFi than NM’s network in Milwaukee. Not sure about Franklin as there are no buildings nearby.

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Post ID: @4uva+1vJDgQWm

My take aways from that thread:
• The most costly projects managed by ICS have ended in utter failure over the past few years.
• Examples include J2C, FiveNine, and SNOW.
• AA has merely maintained the status quo established by his predecessor.
• ICS is vastly overstaffed, both with full-time employees and contractors.
• AA leaders - SM, MH, PH, SG, and AR contribute no value.
• AA consistently evades accountability.
• Nepotism seems to thrive within ICS.
• CM should consider transferring ICS under DG, who might be able to rectify the issues.

Missed something?

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Post ID: @4vyi+1vJDgQWm

what does esd mean?

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Post ID: @3wcc+1vJDgQWm

I would just like to reiterate the sentiment in that thread that ics is full of bloat and fodder and has terrible leadership with no structure.

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Post ID: @2gjl+1vJDgQWm

The last time such a large thread with information was deleted was when people leaked what eventually became the RTO plan. People questioned it, but it turned out to be 100% truth. So what was in the other thread I'm taking with less grains of salt than usual and preparing for the worst.

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Post ID: @2fye+1vJDgQWm

The "ESD run by Mckinsey?" thread is apparently still visible in the cached results of Bing and Yahoo. Doesn't include the most recent posts though.

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Post ID: @2ktb+1vJDgQWm

Someone had put a summary here of that other thread in a comment here and now that's gone.

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Post ID: @2nnm+1vJDgQWm

Most of the insightful posts seems to go missing. The comp. prefers to highlight only its record breaking dividend story. The real facts are hurting for them.

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Post ID: @1icm+1vJDgQWm

Not sure but folks here say stuff that breaks the site rules gets deleted usually.

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