Instead of we will kick their a$$ its nicey nicey all of a sudden what happened steve?
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Nobody here ever looks at total company financials...
SB thinks A.I. stands for Altalinks and Iridesse.
You guys are arguing over copiers lol. Fuji is already in the IT and Consulting business. They’re in the ServiceNow and Salesforce space going after the soft dev market where AI is growing. Not predetermined or OCR workflow that SB calls AI. Xerox is a dealer. Fuji is a global organization in multiple industries and multiple business ventures. They don’t care about copiers.
Yawnnn…they can sign up with 500 dealers and it will make zero difference. If you really think dealers are going to go out of their way to push Fuji branded units over their established brands, you’re a dip$hit just like them. Haha. Let them make a 1% push in the market. Ooohhh…so scared!
Keep hating Xerox jaded ex lovers! 100 more years baby! We got new products launched left and right with yes…our Fuji brethren and more on the docket next year. We’re here for the long haul! Keep crying those competitive tears. Wahhh Xerox didn’t want me.
What’s even funnier is that you have no clue on what Sharp dealers are picking up the BP-1200 (get the name of the product correct so you don’t sound so stupid)
They have over 20 dealers signed with more on the way.
And Marco is just the first dealer to sign with FujiFilm. The more they sign the less relevant Xerox becomes.
The end of Xerox is near my friend!
Fuji is putting in place business in EU and NA as Xerox can't shed geographies, r&d, and employees fast enough there is full blown panic lready about q3 numbers while Fuji is slow and steady. My geography has lost service and sales to Fuji and I see our old head of marketing is over there too so keep pretending they do not have all the mome tum
What’s funnier is you thinking that Marco is really going to make a big dent in Fuji’s market share in the US. You do realize that they sell Canon, KM, Kyocera , Lexmark, Sharp etc. right? All of them being established brands in the US that end users recognize. Ask yourself if they are really going to primarily push an obscure brand not known in the US (outside of toner heads) instead of all their other brands? Didn’t think so. Stop looking at things through your Xerox hater glasses.
Not many Sharp dealerships are picking up the Revoria either by the way. Too much investment internally with techs and other resources. They are too late to the production game and it’s an uphill battle from here to truly compete. So keep dreaming.
Have to laugh at some of these comments about FujiFilm needing Xerox. Must be Xerox employee hanging on to the past.
What is FujiFilm doing? Actively talking with dealers to build their dealer network, just signed Marco.
Growing their partnership with Sharp.
Today Xerox may be the biggest customer, but every day that goes by they get smaller and smaller.
You may not like it, but Xerox will son be irrelevant to FujiFilm.
I’m going to assume you’ve never ran a business before. Are you aware in this economic climate how expensive it is to build out an entirely new infrastructure from the ground up to try and replace an existing one? I’m talking distribution centers, techs, sales force, customer support center, supply center, logistics, etc. Say what you want about Xerox, but it would take Fuji several years to build a decent infrastructure that still wouldn’t even come close to what Xerox has today. And to spend that kind of money in a dying industry with over 10 competitors? It’s a lose/lose situation. They realize it and so should you. The partnership is here to stay.
As opposed to non financial revenues? Fuji can do without XRX and sell direct for a lower price. SB seems to think there are margins in every handoff. Doesn’t work that way.
Lol, take all your emotions out of things. Fuji absolutely needs Xerox still. Study Fuji’s financial revenues when you get a moment and tell us how much the Xerox relationship contributes to it. So you want them to fire their biggest partner and distributor? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Go back to business school.
The comment from SB comes across as a desperate cry for help.
Fujifilm does not need Xerox and anyone believing that needs a head exam.
Worse than that, XRX financed the CI buyout at a higher than current share price AND pays $20M in additional interest on the loan which worsens an already poor cash flow situation.
The GSB organization is really a way to book (and overstate) cash flow. XRX stock is now a top "short sale" target, because the finances are so poor and the revenue has no hope of recovery in a secular declining market space.
Wait until Q3 numbers hit and they have to admit that the free cash flow promise of $600M annually isn't going to happen...The already rock bottom stock price will be something they can only dream about attaining going forward.
This is just math and published numbers. I wish it weren't true, but sadly it's only the tip of the iceberg showing....
"carl needed the money to prop up his dying empire nothing more"
True, but a bit more. SB also wanted to buy his way out of the CI board members holding (at least trying to) him accountable for continuing terrible performance. Spend $500M of XRX scarce cash to get himself out of hot water.
This company has been various flavors of dead from the neck up for years
don't let sb off the hook he was brought in by Carl's crew and approved of everything they wanted including ruining the relationship with Fuji. carl needed the money to prop up his dying empire nothing more nothing less. sb is d-mb but not so d-mb to see his plan has been exposed as a fraud and is trying to C his A
The merger 8 years ago was because Jacobson was playing checkers against Carl who was playing chess. SB realized a while ago that severing relationship with Fuji was a mistake, which is why he bought out Carl and mentions it every chance he can. SB needs Fuji and can say it was JV, "not me" who severed the ties. Fuji doesn't care who sells their stuff so they'll provide X with equipment that they can peddle off to dealers . Doesn't save the world but gives X gear that it can resell to the resellers.
Fuji doesn't need XRX in the least. Would have been a great merger 10 years ago but JV f'ed that up.
A little Fuji never hurt anyone
Rumour has it he and JB have been in Japan for the last week trying to help save the company. Rumour of course but makes sense.
fuji is the shark and xerox and sharp are the remora. one side needs way more than thr other
It’s simple. They both realize they need each other to survive. Continued business relationship keeps both of them making money.
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