Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

A little advice for older employees...

Cisco employees whose age plus years served equal 65...make sure you sign up for Cisco RMAP (retirement insurance) before departure, if qualified.

If LR'd: check with Benefits if they will suspend RMAP until after COBRA. If so, you can sign up for RMAP's cheapest option: VSP vision (then decline vision at your new job). This will "hold your place" in retirement coverage if you ever need it. If you are without a job after COBRA suspends (which I hope you are not!), you can easily revert to full coverage under RMAP. It's not cheap, but no health insurance is...

Leaving because new job: (congratulations!) It is still a good idea to keep the RMAP option open if available to you. Just sign up for RMAP's VSP vision to start. This will "hold your place" in retirement health insurance if you ever need expanded coverage.

Many people are retiring earlier than 65, when Medicare kicks in, so you'll still need to cover your health insurance before that time. You never know when you may be without it and going it alone on the open market can be tedious and in many cases just as expensive if not more. If you ever need to increase your health coverage due to a life change, you can easily turn on the additional coverages under RMAP.

Hope this makes sense. If not, I encourage you to research Cisco RMAP if you qualify, because if you don't do it before you leave, you can't go back and sign up. When I left Cisco, this is what I did and I retired at 62. I had a similar scenario from my last company so now I have two from which to choose until Medicare at 65. Gives me some peace of mind.

Good luck, everyone!

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Post ID: @OP+1uapzrd2

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Let's say, you qualify for RAMP.
I have studied RAMP and COBRA docs.
Fact is : RAMP is more expensive than COBRA and open marketplace.

Real Question: Why do you want to hang on to RAMP? I don't see any benefits.
Can someone please answer this precisely?

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Post ID: @v5g+1uapzrd2
Yes you do!

Don't just use OP's quote. Look up all the requirements because for ages it also included being at least 50 years old.

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Post ID: @tq0+1uapzrd2

RMAP is more expensive than the open market...shop around

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Post ID: @tev+1uapzrd2

I qualify for CIsco RAMP.
And, interesting, I came up with the same conclusion independently: "if you qualify for RAMP, keep it alive by enrolling (at least) in VSP for about $250 per year" so that you are eligible in the future for the full coverage which is BTW, VERY VERY expensive premium.
RAMP is more expensive than COBRA. COBRA is more expensive than many other options.

So the question is what is the benefit of RAMP in the first place? I could not find any. Can someone please reply if you have the real answer. Thanks.

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Post ID: @tef+1uapzrd2

you have to be over 50 for RMAP top apply.

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Post ID: @2zrg+1uapzrd2

to replace my current coverage with RMAP would cost close to 5k per month for a family. Its far less expensive to buy from united hc directly or through a broker. Its a terrible deal for a family to get covered. Cobra to the new year so your deductible doesnt restart and then buy your own pilicy.

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Post ID: @2enh+1uapzrd2
43 yrs old and been here for 22 yrs. Do I qualify for RMAP

Hmmm, let's look it up:

Cisco employees whose age plus years served equal 65

Yes you do! But hurry, next year, your age plus years of service will not equal 65, anymore! :P

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Post ID: @1orv+1uapzrd2

43 yrs old and been here for 22 yrs. Do I qualify for RMAP

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Post ID: @1ged+1uapzrd2

RMAP is CR4P

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Post ID: @1xev+1uapzrd2

RMAP is more expensive than comparable options available in the marketplace
Not the perk Cisco makes it out to be

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Post ID: @1ber+1uapzrd2

While the medical can be expensive compared to Obamacare depending on your retirement net income, dental can continue with MetLife and Vision is available - can always just sign up for vision to keep your options open.

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Post ID: @1xmk+1uapzrd2

I don't believe it compares favorably with Obamacare bronze or whatever, but check

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Post ID: @1oqn+1uapzrd2

You may also elect RMAP at any time while on Cisco COBRA.

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Post ID: @1non+1uapzrd2

I was LR’d at 55+ and retired. Took RMAP dental. Will continue it along with ACA and then Medicare. Dental issues are more expensive than medical at this age.

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Post ID: @cql+1uapzrd2

"Can you keep RMAP VSP for yourself and when medical plan is needed buy RMAP for yourself, your spouse and kids?"

I would definitely check the details with Benefits. I chose VSP for my spouse and I. (It's only like $250 a year, not sure what family rate is, but likely not a lot)

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Post ID: @bpu+1uapzrd2

Can you keep RMAP VSP for yourself and when medical plan is needed buy RMAP for yourself, your spouse and kids?

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Post ID: @njp+1uapzrd2

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