No job security, age discrimination when it comes to layoffs, a toxic work environment that keeps getting worse, managers who love to bully their employees, and so many more amazing things. Who wouldn't want to work and build their career at a place like this, right?
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I have been gone from the original incarnation of L-3 T for a long time, but the original outfit seemed very pragmatic and was basically a group of independent acquired entities formed by Frank Lanza, who was originally an engineer and originated from Loral. It became a "warehouse" of buying and selling and packing various pieces of companies who had to sell units from merger agreements, until Lanza died in 2006. After a hedge fund bought an influencing amount of shares it then soon took a turn for the worse when a GE culture and top management took over and the final decline of the engineering emphasis of the company (think: Boeing, Honeywell and others) was sacrificed for making numbers for shareholders. It's never been the same and as we all know, just another place to work for awhile, then leave and better yourselves!
Not everyone is in the same situation so I can only speak for mine. 18+ years and the best job I've ever had in 40 years being in the workplace. I have yet to see anyone really work hard, I mean work hard in the last 18 years. Pay is good, benefits are probably not as good. Management is non existent, that is a good thing. HR is a piece of sh-t! But all and all not a horrible place at all. You should probably go work somewhere else for a few years to learn the world and return like most do.
To get into L3Harris is not easy. But we did it. Maybe it’s time to go now? If you are here now, you can find better. I plan on firing them as a Christmas gift to myself. They did what I needed them to do. I’ll be fine. And so will you, whoever needs to hear this. Best of luck to you all. I hope things get better. Whether it’s at L3Harris or not, I hope things get better.
Scapegoating and counter accusations are the norm. 2+2=5. Throw in a healthy mixture of gaslighting and group think peer pressure. Yesman, yeswoman, yes(your preferred pronoun) rules here.
Brain and ethics drain is already happening.
My previous manager failed to disclose action plans the PM wanted done. Said PM had stopped talking to me- because I wouldn't bend around quality issues / bypass.
So it was rather a huge surprise to hear 'you didn't do X Y Z' when I didn't know- nor was it provided in writing.
This is not a place to stand tall unless you're sponsored by someone or a class/group that they need to hire.
Diversity, equity, and equality. You're all the same, even if you shine and problem solve above your peers. No recognition or distinction, except your manager will force you to train others on what you figured on your own.
Manager: I could've figured that out on my own.
Worker: no you charlatan, chameleon, no nothing parroting pretender. You talk jargon but can't solve your way out of a wet paper bag.
Then you're talked down and made insignificant for going above and beyond. Logically, you can't be smarter or work harder. It's a sick culture that promotes socialism. Remember what happened in the Soviet Union? It's now corporate America. Da comrade, we all the same, here half rotten potato. Da?
Re: L3 was a great company to work for. L3Harris I cannot say the same thing for.
I could not agree more.
Working at RF Harris in Rottenchester NY was the absolute worst, that place s-u-c-k-e-d, couldn't get out of that s-hole fast enough.
L3 was a great company to work for. L3Harris I cannot say the same thing for.
I worked for a ITT and Exelis 12 years before was acquired by Harris in 2015-2016 and then merged with L3 in 2019. This was a new business for them. I can say that up until the most recent merger, the organization was much better to work for. I have witnessed the transition first hand. They bought into a business where they underestimated the complexity of the work and the skill set required to do the job. Yet they insisted we were overpaid and, quite frankly, "over skilled" for the jobs at hand. So, after their attempt to "d-mb down" the work failed, they began firing mid-level leadership. Then they hired managers from outside of the industry who tried to crack the whip. But most of them quit after just a few months. I personally had 7 managers in 24 months! During this entire time, we were threatened and bullied by the leadership in Florida who accused us of "sandbagging" their directives. Finally, as soon as I reached the age where I could take an early retirement, I took it. I would have worked another 5 years were it not for the toxic environment this new leadership had created. All of this came from Florida. I'm certain that this problem is not localized to just Clifton. Judging by what I've read here, on other sites, and feedback from colleagues across the country, this is a systemic problem with L3harris as a company. I wish my former colleagues well who are still struggling. I understand the reluctance to leave after so many years. But, you're not helping yourself by staying. If you've still got a few years to go, it's time to move on.
Honestly, speak for yourself. I know there might be divisions, or departments, out there with managers or HR teams like that, but that is not the "norm". Especially the age discrimination during layoffs. Now if you are 65, and you have bern talking about retiring, I could see that, and it is only right that you leave and let them keep someone who plans on working for years to come. I personally notice that the people who "think" they are hard working valuable employees are the ones who throw the biggest fit when they get layed off. I also have not witnessed any "bullying" by managers unless expecting you to do your freaking job and coming to work on time is seen as bullying. Now I have seen managers that make more exceptions for their buddies attendence problems, but they are still expected to work when they do show up. I have been with one of the legacy L3 companies for 30+ years, so I have seen a lot of cr-p in my branch, but nothing that would make me flinch at working here, staying here, or recommending this company to my family and friends. Is it the same company I started working for in the 90's? No. Do I still think it is, or could be, a great place to work? Yes.