Fellow members, I wanted your help to find out what is the salary-grade structure in 3M? I am a new JG 11 joinee of 8 months and was wondering how many years usually at each grade? what is the salary range by grade?
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Yell and puff but don’t forget bully…sounds like a winning formula for that person….guess it’s working for them.
Stress for not hitting numbers? Giraffe sales bro in asd hasnt hit his number ever in any job and is doing quite well!! Just yell at people and puff your chest out and youll be fine
I am at JG14 and I felt it is the sweet spot. I know of colleagues who are 16 & 17, and often is complaining about their stress level But they forgot that they have been rightfully compensated already.
I agree with @5hnu+1uF4hClC
If you are young and don't have your own family, you can push hard to climb the work ladder now. But keep in mind your stress levels and remember that there is a difference between what the company pays for the work that you do and the accountability that you carry.
If you want to climb the JG ladder sustainably to your health, at JG11 you can hunt for roles of higher responsibility (be wary of them giving you more responsibility without a future road map to the next role, they will always want you to do more for free), take those roles when they come. Each role has an assigned JG, so you want to look for roles with a JG increase each step. It is alright to make a sidewards move, but only do it if you are trying to change function or business group/division because you essentially reset your track record at that JG when you move sideways.
Once you hit JG14, then it is about accountability, rather than the workload. You will end up spending more time ensuring your team is able to handle the work, achieve deliverables/targets etc. If anything goes wrong, you are on the line, not your team. That is when you get paid for accountability, but not work as much, outside of creating powerpoints and spreadsheets. The work you get is setting direction, aligning to company/VP's strategy, and reducing headcount (you don't get to choose, someone up the top who has no clue chooses who goes, sometimes they pick your best or most experienced worker!).
It is a crazy world that defies logic, you will feel a lot of anger, disillusion and sadness when you have to do this. So my advice is not to die/sacrifice for the company, because the company will never die for you. When you feel it is time to leave, find a role at a different company and go, taking the experience and position titles that you have gained at the company. Don't get Stockholm syndrome, don't let the company hold you hostage. You don't owe them anything.
Bear in mind. Higher responsibility means higher stress. Nothing comes free. If wants to take higher JG, be prepared to lick your superiors boots
You'll find that JG increases only come with role changes. I went to a JG12 and it took 3 years before I went to JG13 with a role change and a very supportive manager. Then it was JG13 all the way for 6 years until I had another role change before hitting JG14. So, I would advise that if you want to climb JG and salary quickly, always aim for positions of higher responsibilities and always ask "What would be the JG for a role like this?".
Is tireman even worth $5mil in annual compensation? What has he achieved other than hiring consultant for advise?
you can work yourself higher, i went from selling tires to selling coffee at starbecks and now i lead EOps , i don't know how i done it but if you can spoof guffballs , it always helps
It all boils down to luck. I have a colleague who went from 12 to 16 within few years. You need to be able to say Yes.
I was stuck on JG13 for 10 years with no opportunities on sight. Just do the bare minimum. No point working hard to benefit your superiors. Those everyday win points are useless
Good. Luck. Been in an 11 for a long time. Everytime I ask about my 12 and what I need to do I am told I am doing an excellent job and no improvement suggestions. Just be happy you have a job.
Here it is:
[JG] [$ Min] [95 Cp] [MRef] [105Cp] [$ Max] [Var%]
07 64,606 76,720 80,757 84,795 113,060 4.77%
08 73,219 86,947 91,523 96,100 128,133 4.77%
09 83,572 99,242 104,465 109,689 146,251 4.77%
10 94,517 112,239 118,146 124,054 165,405 4.77%
11 105,846 125,692 132,307 138,923 185,230 6.98%
12 122,168 145,075 152,710 160,346 213,794 6.98%
13 142,476 169,190 178,094 186,999 249,332 9.10%
14 162,935 193,485 203,668 213,852 285,136 11.12%
15 184,310 218,868 230,387 241,907 322,542 13.05%
16 197,373 234,381 246,716 259,052 345,403 16.67%
17 230,229 273,397 287,786 302,176 402,901 20.00%
T1 70,959 84,264 88,698 93,133 124,178 4.77%
T2 85,179 101,150 106,473 111,797 149,063 4.77%
T3 105,846 125,692 132,307 138,923 185,230 6.98%
T4 122,168 145,075 152,710 160,346 213,794 6.98%
T4A 142,476 169,190 178,094 186,999 249,332 9.10%
T5 162,935 193,485 203,668 213,852 285,136 11.12%
T5A 184,310 218,868 230,387 241,907 322,542 13.05%
T6 197,373 234,381 246,716 259,052 345,403 16.67%
T6A 230,229 273,397 287,786 302,176 402,901 20.00%
JG = [Job_Grade]
$ Min = [Minimum]
95 Cp = [95th Competitive]
MRef = [Market_Reference_Point]
105Cp = [105th Competitive]
$ Max = [Maximum]
Var% = [Variable % of Total Cash]
As far as promotions go, I know they exist but they're so rare they may as well be mythical. Like Varys said, they happen maybe after 5 years, if you're on good terms with your boss, and they only ever happen once per role.
You can change jobs every 2-3 years to move up faster. HR frowns on it if you spend less than 24 months in a role and will outright block it if you try to move in less than a year (although it's more possible than getting a promotion).
Someone posted the salary ranges a few months ago. I'll see if I can find them and repost it here.
Historical average for JG11 to JG12 I've seen is around 5 years, some faster, some slower.
Promotions after JG12 that don't have a reliable timeline, it is performance and opportunity dependent. JG12 last I looked was the median retirement JG for 3M's salaried employees. The hardest promotions have tended to be to JG14, JG16, and JG18/L3.
For the US: The midpoint total cash salary (base + AIP) numbers are posted on this website, but probably a few years old by now. The midpoint for each job grade is about 12% higher than the job-grade below. From JG12 and up the AIP percentage of total cash will increase with every JG.
Ask your boss about the range. They call also share one range above
To move up a JG requires a promotion. You may can get one in your current role, but usually have to change jobs