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PIPs

Performance improvement plans (PIPs, Pivots) almost always end in you being fired or quitting. There are psychological reasons this is inevitable. Here is why, and how to avoid them as an employee and to be a better manager.

First, I know a few managers will argue with me in the comments and claim that they "do everything they can" to help employees improve. I welcome your stories and claims - please post them!

Despite these honest claims, the psychology of the situation sets you up for being fired:

  1. If the manager knew how to help you, they would have done so before writing an official plan
  1. If you knew how to succeed at your work place, you would have done so already. Other than a few "quiet quitters," no one sits around saying "I want to do a bad job, so bad I get fired."
  1. By the time your manager decides you need to be put on a formal performance plan, they have burned up all their optimism for you. Managers avoid this HR process and paperwork as long as they can...

...By the time they reach the point where they feel they must act, they have crossed a mental line of thinking "I may have made a hiring mistake" and / or "this person may need to be fired."

  1. The HR process is set up at least in part to avoid employee lawsuits. As such, it is a machine designed to make sure that the right documentation and paperwork is created...

...This machine will force the manager to write down all the things that may indicate that you are a poor employee who can be fired for "non-performance."

The reason I say that most performance plans inevitably lead to termination is thus:

  1. The manager's mental state shifts to "managing a problem" where that problem is you...

...Once they decide they are "documenting your poor performance," they tend to see, notice, and write down more things than they would have before.

  1. The HR machinery grinds away. This is particularly true at companies like Amazon that have a goal of "unregretted attrition" where they want to actively move poor performers out.

To avoid getting fired...

You really must avoid ever getting on one of these plans to begin with!

Once the plan starts, the best course of action is to start looking for your next job fast, while you still have a paycheck.

Now for all the managers who claim that they really want their employees to succeed and they write the plans to try to help them:

  1. I believe your intent and your good heart
  1. All the subconscious bias I describe above still impacts you. Even if you want to help your employee, you are usually out of ideas (or you would have used them) and frustrated, plus now HR is involved and you have to think about the paperwork if it doesn't work out.

So: If you really want to help your employees, you have to do it before the performance plan comes out. By all means, be as fair and supportive as you can during the plan, but understand that at this point your best help to them may be giving them time to find a new job.

#pip #pips

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Good article on PIP summarizing both sides. May be write a book with me… I got lots of insights with 20+ years at Cisco.

The reality is many managers (short and long 20+ years) become bosses (NOT leaders) to avoid technical delivery complexities, and lack leadership and mentoring / coaching that is huge part of being a manager. The “boss” role is to look for any weakness or a negative complaint internally or customers and exemplifies 100 times in desire to fix, and to justify their own ROLE as managers, besides looking good to their own Managers. I have seen managers seeking feedback with intentions of getting (negative) comments so they feel empowered to chew their employee. Really bad action but such is the reality.

No employee wants to do a bad job intentionally, and bad things do happen once a while that managers have to manage and turn things around. It’s part of Cisco culture of risk taking, and a manager duty.

No body wins putting an employee through the PIP process or even staring the process. Many managers have continually doing PIP as part of managing and scaring performance, which reflects on them. How many of these managers themselves going through PIP or managed out? To me, HR should go after these managers that are PIPPING their people on yearly basis, and see part of motivation for performance.

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Post ID: @lcq+1u3v97FL

Narcissistic managers break employees into 3 categories; scapegoat, neglected, and golden child

You'll see this team dynamic throughout corporate america

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Post ID: @qnb+1u3v97FL

I have come across manager who are totally biased. They have one set of rules for their fav employee or old timer employee and another set of rules for the new hires with good experience.

There are so many managers who lack leadership skills, do not motivate or coach their employees (new hires) and lack plan of action. They are still at Cisco for almost two decades !

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Post ID: @nso+1u3v97FL

ChatGPT please summarize this ChatGPT article. Thanks!

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