I am one of those discarded employees , as opposed to retained, and I am having a very hard time dealing with it all. I am expected to act like nothing has happened and be ‘one team’ and continue to give a 100% for the same company that didn’t think I was worthy enough to be retained. In addition, you think the training at L3H is bad , the amount required by Accenture is 3 fold. In addition, I now have 2 to 3 bosses to answer to, all requiring tons of spreadsheets to fill out in addition to extreme attention to ServiceNow tickets with particular pressure on P1 and P2 tickets. All this with our vacation days taken away and no sick days. We get 2 culture days to use and about 8 hours vacation time per pay period, so virtually I will need to wait until next year to try and plan any type of meaningful vacation , hoping I don’t get sick. Finally, it’s the fear that this can end at any time. I can’t believe that if L3H cancels their contract, Accenture can more the approx 475 of us discarded employees to other projects. This is just a delayed RIF, without
severance. I am looking elsewhere. From an anxious, depressed, tired and sui….al discarded former L3H employee.
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@198a Me too. Nothing like taking your job seriously, caring out the details, and being committed to success and finding out you are not important enough to keep. Just a number.
It’s been a year, and I’m still angry and bitter about the way L3Harris treated us all...
It has been 1 year of constant fear and worrying now. I really wish it would stabilize.
I know, find something else, it really isn't that easy when you have spent a decade + specializing in skills to support your employer. I always thought it was a symbiotic relationship, wrong.
Here is what I was told in the past couple days from the Accenture side, main project is dead, no more jrny to cloud. 7 years is dead, no mention how many years left. All access to ACN sites via L3H laptop halted, preparing for the final separation I guess. More roll offs on the ACN SIDE coming in June.
Someone got paid under the table for this. Glade DOGE is helping canceling Accenture government contracts. This company is very weird.
In the same boat, feeling EXACTLY the same way!
There is no way Accenture retains this entire team and L3 moving forward with an outsourced department seems confusing as well given their intentions with unifying systems. Hopefully something interesting pops up from a competitor, Lockheed has 1LMX and actively staffing it. Every day is another day of waking up and not really believing this is the reality I live. I can't believe the amount of productive output that is acceptable now, the LOE is almost nil.
Who in their right mind would stay with a company that took away benefits? It's one thing to get a net zero increase in compensation from one year to the next but to put employees in the minus column while not be illegal, is most certainly unethical and downright cruel.
Instead of complaining about things they took away, just leave. Secretly find a new job and on the Friday before your new job starts, discreetly pack up your personal belongings and don't come back Monday. Don't call, don't text, don't say anything to anybody. Just ghost them. And after you start your new job, ignore all calls from your former employer. They should be used to it by now. And don't worry about being missed either. You will remember them long after they have forgotten your name. Trust me.
We are a couple months into this now and the feel I get is that there are a few people that are communicating with accenture but the remainder of us sit around wondering what is going on. Accenture got their list of leads from L3 , the person that is my "lead" already said "at my level" to me even though we are the same level and have been for years. More power to you if you want to be responsible for more and make the same, especially when your resources are always busy with other things. It has a very weird feel to it like something is about to happen but nothing ever does. It makes no sense...yet.
apparently, on call is a hot topic for some.
This place is toast. After that last meeting about snow, it just feels like a bunch of miserable and justifiably uncomfortable people.
They are bad people, I was helping interview potential contractors and he was pitching it as a 3 month contract but they planned to roll the guy off in 2 weeks. I basically quit being involved and told the guy he was a horrible person, which he and all of his cronies are. First time I have ever seen a human cry in an interview, f you people, you are pathetic, that isn't business, it is inhumane and unethical.
they cut benefits for you folks that were forced over?
our benefits were never particularly good at L3H… that su-ks that Accenture cut yours even more. Not a single IT person I know has had a positive experience with that whole ordeal
Saving every penny I make and trying to do the best I can to contribute, it is like running into a brick wall though. Half of the people seem to spend forever because they can while others try and contribute meaningfully. I hate to say it but what I see down the road isn't going to be positive for us. It is a GD shame , a whole lot of long time contributors with a lot of years of dedication getting thrown out into a world that doesn't really want us either. This must be what s-xual as--ult victims feel like, I didn't do anything wrong yet this is what I got served.
The only positive I come away with is the potential for closure and the ability to feel ok to move on. I never thought this would be my fate with this company or I never would have joined. It was actually one of the questions I asked when I interviewed 18 years ago and the director proudly said never, he said people leave and ultimately come back. Too bad that culture is gone but it was probably cr-ppy that whole time too. Good luck folks!
Accenture is a-s. It’s one thing they cut our benefits and add more stupid trainings that don’t pertain to the job. It’s another when they ignore our existing clearance while fu-k over our job even more with meetings, yet expect us to work as if nothing changed. All they care is numbers while actively not understanding the jobs and struggles at local facilities when asked.
“Agreed there is something else going on.”
Empathetic re-tar-dation
“Agreed there is something else going on.”
Empathetic re-ta-d-ation
“Agreed there is something else going on.”
Empathetic re--rdation
Inhousing for something like IT operations is always always cheaper than outsourcing.
Outsourcing only makes sense for cost savings if it’s a technology area in program delivery that we aren’t good at (for example making specialized panels or batteries or other custom equipment for a product).
Agreed there is something else going on.
I’ve done the math and I just don’t see the cost savings by outsourcing to Accenture and moving everything to the cloud. Both Accenture and Microsoft are into making money, and if that means allowing L3Harris to show a short term cost savings before gouging the he-l out of them they will. If true, how can a CIO and CEO not understand that? The board even approved this move. There must be something else going on. They can’t be that stupid, can they? Did she really make a 35 million dollar error?
The disorganization in this cutover to Accenture process highlights the nature of the underlying team. If you are going to mandate 9/80 then make it apply to everyone. That is just one example of the exceptions some people are allowed to take, it isn't a homogenously treated unit and people notice that. Everyone thinks they are the best employee ever, treating them accordingly just compounds the issue and directly impacts the others. People aren't stupid. I work on a team with a handful of people that all do the same highly technical thing. Some take weeks to do things that should take hours and nobody ever says anything. It is an unhealthy environment for people that want to put in the effort and downright hostile if you ask for more work. You aren't supposed to be able to hide in IT, but that assumes the overlords watching you have a clue what they are looking at, which they clearly do not.
I am in the "lucky" accenture group as well and the thing that seems so odd to me is somehow everything is going to remain exactly the same except with more "upskilling" and simply a new employer, yet L3 is saving money and accenture is going to bear the additional cost? It doesn't make mathematical sense, fully factor the equation and look at it again, it just doesn't add up. There are so many people that are ghosts, used to be a meritocratic org not anymore, bunch of phonies and has been for years. I will collect checks and contribute but it has the feel of a feed lot. The disdain I have for the legacy L3Harris people is very real though. I have no idea how they expect to have a motivated team, one mission one team just doesn't get me going.
That Kim lady is totally unimpressive, as was Jacqui. Omar was effective because he was cheap and they did more with less pre-merger because it was a cohesive company. L3 on the other hand was distributed with different implementations and processes at every division.
Joe G should take a lot of the blame, this entire COE was his making, he interviewed for that CIO position also and was probably red a$$ed because some frumpy lady got the call instead. I am not so sure there wasn't some internal sabotage in this.
kim (cio) thought this would be a cost savings. she got the forecast for 2025 and its +35 million incremental increase. she forgot to add one of her columns in her spreadsheet, namely the one that includes the accenture partner's overhead and bonus incentive. kubasick has gone through 3 cio's since the merger and the last two were woke female cio's (jackie and kim) who overpromised and underperformed. kim will be fired by the end of the year as she can't wiggle her way out of this increase. funny thing is that ceo kubasik went on msnbc touting the huge cost savings by outsourcing I.T. maybe one of the analyst were ask a follow up question asking him how the savings are being realized. kim, start looking for a new position as your runway is over soon.
I am in that camp. It su-ks and the job market is equally awesome. I have talked to my manager once for about 15 minutes. Maybe we can have another meeting with that Yale dude and his pickle ball buddy and listen to them talk about their big executive retreat.
Do the least you can to get by and wait for someone to tell you that you did something wrong then just say, I had no idea, based on my interaction with my leadership I understood this to be the correct way. What can they say?!
I guarantee you there are people that think this is a genuine opportunity, especially the rubes they appointed as leads. I just keep stride in the pack and watch them until they hit the great wall of ignorance.
When does the upskilling start?
"One team, One Mission"
take care of yourself, don't let others dictate your reality, you are worth it!
I am also one of the people sold to Accenture, like a modern day slave. Yes, I am looking for a new position.
I felt, and still feel, very disrespected after many years of really trying to do my best for L3Harris. Without giving myself away, I have won numerous awards and been involved in key projects for L3Harris. None of which seems to matter to anyone but me. Just a number.
Since the move, I have been extremely disappointed in Accenture leadership. I have not experienced a single meeting where they have introduced themselves as our new leaders, explained their roles, explained how work will be handled and approved. Every time I ask my management how to handle a given situation, they have no idea.
We have the strangest organization chart I have ever seen and I have two time cards to complete now. The second time card was rushed into place so we could enter the L3Harris charge numbers for what we are working on.
The whole move was just poorly organized and I suspect will, at some point, come back and bite L3Harris with either higher costs, poor quality, and or longer outages. The P1 and P2 ticket issue is just one example of Accenture missing mark in understanding processes. It will obviously be the “hole” in the damn that bleeds lost revenue for them, due to not meeting contract requirements, for some time. Clearly, on-call pay, educational assistance, the job round robin program for new-grads designed to create new leaders – all gone without any acknowledgment or care. Just a number.
Except for the strange CIO meeting where she called us “One Team,” paraded people in front of the camera calming success stories, the flow down has been missing and the flow up has increased. What a sham.
good luck in searching for a new place to make a living. don't waste any time doing anything else. you've already learned everything you need to know about the people you work for. it's time to move on. best of luck to you.