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Denied promotion for weird reason

Folks, just had my 1 on 1 with my manager and he said that my compensation is too low to be promoted to the next grade. Was really looking forward to this. Is this even possible or it's a possible bluff? What are your views you all? Straight off depressed ATM.. 😔 before you ask, yes my manager is indian.

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Maybe the manager just didn't want to bother with you anymore since you were either over paid as is or not ready to promote? Ge-z, always blame someone else.

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Post ID: @8wwg+1tbCRW9J

"To say that your compensation is too low to be promoted is ridiculous. I've never heard of such a thing & I've been with the company for 25 years."

Then you have no concept of how budgets work and how to take care of 18-25 people with higher expectations than most of them deserve.

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Post ID: @6uzy+1tbCRW9J

The only time you get a raise is when you leave one company for another. You're a su---r if you stick around long enough to be "promoted" and still under paid.

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Post ID: @6aof+1tbCRW9J

I heard the same thing from my manager. I'm in zone 1 of my pay grade and as we talked about my long overdue promotion, he told me that it would mean a high jump in salary which is not something that can be easily done. He explained to me that my salary needs to go up before promotion becomes possible. He was of an opinion that my salary was too low compared to my experience, skills, effort etc.
Well, you see, I didn't get raise.
But more importantly I have never been given tasks that would lead to promotions, salary increases, or anything else related to career progression. I have never been told why. All I know that these tasks have always been given to selected few no matter how competent they were.

My mistake: not leaving company long time ago (probably autumn 2017).
Moral of the story: if you don't get normal salary increases or due promotions; even more, if you see you're not given tasks or projects of importance, the ones that may lead to career progression; if you see things are stagnant for you for a few years; than leave. Prepare for interviews and hit "apply" button on job ads. If not, like myself, you'll end up without marketable skills, with low pay, damaged mental (and not just mental) health and with writing on the wall. If I was stupid, dear reader, you don't have to be.

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Post ID: @3khx+1tbCRW9J

G12 is your ticket to LR… no pay change, just little extra bonus. Not worth its trouble in gold. Been there, done that!!

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Post ID: @2itf+1tbCRW9J

If it is anything G12 and above then be ready to wait for many years unless you have an extremely supportive management chain (and you put in the work as well). Anything to G11 and below should be a routine promotion after time in role

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Post ID: @2ieg+1tbCRW9J

To OP:

Folks, just had my 1 on 1 with my manager and he said that my compensation is too low to be promoted to the next grade. Was really looking forward to this.

Did he confirm that you deserve a promotion based on accomplishments?

To the rest:

Troll. It’s not promo season yet.

True, it's not promotion season, but promotions should come up in 1:1s and apparently it did.

That’s not accurate but it may be due to your grade level. You can be promoted if it is a one grade increase. You can also be promoted if it’s a 2-grade increase with special approval from Compensation. Three grades or more is not allowed. But, purely based off n comp, your manager is mistaken

OP stated it's about a promotion to the next grade. I'm not sure why that post got thumbs up.

standard practice, if you are low in zone 1 it's a challenge to jump grades as your pay reflects your skills, experience and impact.

That is a consequence of staying for too long at Cisco.

It's funny. I had the exactly opposite reason that my pay was higher than the average and I needed to wait for the average to catch up. It has been many years and I am still waiting.

You pay was higher than the average of the next grade? Then it's waaay above average for your current grade level. And this is not a problem? That should result in a promotion without a salary raise.

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Post ID: @2glt+1tbCRW9J

standard practice, if you are low in zone 1 it's a challenge to jump grades as your pay reflects your skills, experience and impact. When you are in zone 3 it should show you are ready for the grade promotion

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Post ID: @1cjx+1tbCRW9J

Troll. It’s not promo season yet.

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Post ID: @1wiw+1tbCRW9J

It's funny. I had the exactly opposite reason that my pay was higher than the average and I needed to wait for the average to catch up. It has been many years and I am still waiting.

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Post ID: @xtd+1tbCRW9J

What's your grade level? Sounds like a performance issue your manager should address head-on.

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Post ID: @gyj+1tbCRW9J

I bet you don't fit the DEI picture; even if you do get the grade level you will not be selected. Leave that manage immediately.

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Post ID: @uks+1tbCRW9J

Work hard. Become irreplaceable. Switch jobs if the manager continues to be an obstacle.

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Post ID: @ciq+1tbCRW9J

Your PowerPoint game was not strong mate.

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Post ID: @hdd+1tbCRW9J

Switch companies every 3-4 years if you care about compensation. Staying at the same company is bad for compensation unless you are in the Good ol' Boys Club.

I watched one Cisco employee go from a Program Manager->Sr Program Manager->Manager->Sr Manager->Director in 4 years. That's without one success project or program. It's all about relationships at Cisco.

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Post ID: @onp+1tbCRW9J

That’s not accurate but it may be due to your grade level. You can be promoted if it is a one grade increase. You can also be promoted if it’s a 2-grade increase with special approval from Compensation. Three grades or more is not allowed. But, purely based off n comp, your manager is mistaken

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Post ID: @wam+1tbCRW9J

Your manager is an id--t.

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Post ID: @zqm+1tbCRW9J

To say that your compensation is too low to be promoted is ridiculous. I've never heard of such a thing & I've been with the company for 25 years.

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Post ID: @eqm+1tbCRW9J

If you’re really needed, they would have moved a mountain for you. How many higher pay new hires were onboarded during a hiring freeze? More than you think. I have seen many Sr. level employees treated and payed like newbies. They made their decision, now you make yours.

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