What are people hearing about security layoffs today?
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@1yxj+1tNO3Fbm what is the impact to Security Verify over all? IF ISVG is being cut, what is happening across the board? What is the impact in various geos?
Unless you are the Security VP or CTO..all other IAM colleagues of 20+ have been laid off...bye ISVG..feature complete!
it sounds so much like Disney's Tragic Kingdom.
"The culture of IBM is bad."
For over 30 years, the culture of IBM has been to give up, stop competing, and sell out for cash. After pulling up all the drawbridges and abandoning the markets, the management lives on in the Armonk castle behind the moat, safe in what they believe to be their forever-kingdom (big enterprise).
But you know what? It's only a matter of time before competitors breach that market as well.
"their design is still world class"
No it's not. You may be living in a fairy tale.
We had one of IBM's patents presented to us at another semi company.
We passed on it.
The culture of IBM is bad.
That starts from the top including the board.
1ywi Google IBM Albany and their current mission They have forged partnerships with every leading semiconductor company in the world and currently have second to none results. IBM abandoned the manufacturing of semiconductors, but their design is still world class. The same deal will happen with Power and Storage IBM just wants out of the manufacturing business, not the computer business
IBM is neither an outside research organization, nor is it a CPU design shop for other companies. Apple once thought this way, but the PowerPC engagement failed. IBM may be a lot of things, but it is neither Intel, ARM, Nvidia nor AMD. Those other companies could be considered credible partners to an outfit like SuperMicro (who is, I agree, fabulous), but IBM would not be considered a partner. They would be nothing more than a hedge fund trying to peddle IP that is quickly reaching its sell-by date.
If IBM is going to be a true partner, then IBM needs to bring something long-lasting to the table. They don't want to do manufacturing, so what else can they do? Design? That's great, but not only has IBM ditched Microelectronics, but they are (allegedly) reducing their active design teams. Who will create the next generations of components? Who will support the existing generations? The other companies I mentioned certainly have their issues, but at least I know that they're sticking around for a while. The only thing I can depend on with IBM is that their staff is on the RA list.
Did AK cry a river on Slack for all the IBM folks that he had to lay off this week ?
I am alluding to what the hypocrite CEO of Intel, Pat Gelsinger, did today saying "This is a tough day for all of us and there will be more tough days ahead"?
Of course it goes without saying that neither of these evil cut throats would take a cut in their salaries, but instead expect a bigger bonus for 2024.
OZO I think you need to expand who a potential partner may be and then perhaps what IBM brings to the table might be relevant. What if the partner was an ultra low cost manufacturer like super micro. They already license Power and storage designs from IBM. They exist on super low margins (eg both Power and storage existing margins would be very large in super micros eyes). Super Micro can’t afford to invest a lot into research, but if IBM provided that as part of the deal, that’s worth a lot. Super micro has a supply chain that can be leveraged. Super micro would love to lower their California manufacturing costs via expanding into existing facilities in Mexico (something IBM could offer up). And the synergies go on. Again it’s just an idea, but an ultra low cost manufacturer would love a GF kind of deal that IBM would almost certainly offer up as IBM’s ultimate goal is to exit manufacturing and its cost burdens.
If you had good and productive AI developers you would need maybe 5% to 10% of the current ensemble of Security architects, managers, developers and specialists. Most do nothing but talk a good game but are going nowhere in a hurry.
It's a waste of these Security resources who produce little or nothing of ANY practical value. It's about being Agile when it comes to development but that doesn't appear to hold any place in AK's strategy. The IBM CIO used to be Agile but has become bloated with more clueless architects, managers and bureaucrats and needs a bigger hair cut across the board.
Hence the decision to sell Security to Palo Alto. As they say, Money talks and BS walks....
Here's an interesting thought exercise...IBM's website lists security products under the following categories:
...Data Security
...Identity and Access Management
...Mobile Security
...Extended Detection and Response
...Fraud Protection
...Attack Surface Management
...Mainframe Security
Question: How big a division do you really need to handle all this stuff? I know that security is a big thing these days in IT, but how much of a staff do you need to write security software?
do you mean AI wiped out the jobs of these Security people ? It would be particularly entertaining to see if the Loser VP of Cloud and Security in F&O, ML, is still running loose like a gorilla in heat telling everyone who makes a comment at his meetings that he wants speak to their manager. It shows how aggressive white apes like that like that get promoted inside Indian Bowel Movement for bullshi**ing everyone, and promoting his own kind.
There is no job security in a security job at IBM.
In order to make a partnership work, each partner has to bring something to the table. While it's true that IBM has an extensive patent and copyright portfolio, it's also true that everyone in the world has been creating stuff that can be used to "replace IBM". Given that they've sold off many of their divisions, what value do they really have outside the enterprise space? Does anybody outside IBM and its existing customer base really care about another POWER revision?
The net result: IMHO, partnerships will have a very limited lifetime, because without continued evolution IBM will not be a great partner (if they are indeed any kind of partner at all).
definitely AK is not impacted
Has anyone been informed they were impacted yet?
There are possibly a couple of observations to be made from this action.
- IBM is embracing partnerships where they believe they can’t be competitive.
- IBM has changed how they view SW group. They now buy innovation vs develop it.
- This is just my speculation. If IBM has changed how they view SW group, they most likely will change how they view “Infrastructure” EG embrace partners where they believe they can’t be competitive. If true look for TSS, low end power and storage, and most importantly non-enterprise cloud to be impacted
Why do you need Security people when you have AI to do the job ?
And didn't IBM agree to sell a big chunk of the Security group in Consulting to Palo Alto a few months ago ?
what do you know about roles impacted and country?
Folks are being informed even as you read this. Everyone who is impacted is suppose to be informed by Friday.