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@Risky Business… All correct, the question is why? 3M states pension fund was overfunded due to rising returns, but I suspect overfunding was mostly due to reduced obligations from head count reductions. Who benefits from the change? Executives for whom guarantee from PBGC would have been a pittance compared to what they have coming. Who loses? The everyday worker for whom PBGC provided a backstop to 3M bankruptcy now has next to nothing for compensation if MetLife or whoever they may sell this annuity to in the future fails. Just another example of the people at the very top taking care of their own at the expense of the “worker” (JG 15 and below).

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Post ID: @dlvr+1t0cuD8a

Controversial opinion incoming…. those who sowed the seeds of insolvency are the ones currently collecting a pension from 3M….

PFAS (they absolutely knew!), Aearo acquisition (how did they not know!?), GE management “science”, A3M/3M “operating model”, let's hire another GE exec that will fix our problems, etc, etc….

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Post ID: @3dqd+1t0cuD8a

So confused w/ all of these changes. Seems like 3M is getting out of the pension offering entirely.

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Post ID: @2zbc+1t0cuD8a

Does this change impact people not collecting the annuity pension yet? Will this affect the lump sump when it moves to new insurance company?

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Post ID: @1jgs+1t0cuD8a

“What’s a pension?”

  • all of us under 50something left holding the bag with slowly diminishing compensation and benefits
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Post ID: @1nzd+1t0cuD8a

Did anyone really have doubts?

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Post ID: @1nzz+1t0cuD8a

The just cements my impression that Brown is going to break 3M up into 3 or 4 companies. He doesn't want to have to figure out how to manage the pensions across successor companies. This is only the beginning.

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Post ID: @1eek+1t0cuD8a

3M is too big to fail!

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Post ID: @1vcl+1t0cuD8a

So that means no more federal Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation (PBGC) protection due to the change from a private pension plan to an annuity. If Met Tower Life becomes insolvent, the Minnesota Life & Health Insurance Guaranty Association would be the backstop.

For PBGC, the max payout is around $6,750 a month for a 65 year old. (The amount is higher for older beneficiaries if they are already receiving benefits when the plan terminates and lower for younger plan participants). If I remember correctly, MN only covers up to $250,000 of net present value for annuities. For a 65 year old with a roughly 20 year life expectancy that works out to about $1,700 a month (assuming a 5% interest rate).

There were quite a few insurance company failures in MN in the 1980s and 1990s, but there haven't been many in the last 20 years. Likely a low probability of insolvency, but never say never.

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Post ID: @ztq+1t0cuD8a

When an insurance company takes over a company pension plan, they must must continue to honor the rules of the plan document. A retiree's monthly payment amount will not change, but payments will be coming from the insurance company instead of the 3M pension fund. Retirees should also expect to receive two 1099-R's next spring since payments will be coming from 2 different sources during 2023. Then back to a single 1099-R in future years as the only payments would be from the insurance company.

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Post ID: @mth+1t0cuD8a

Should retirees expect any changes in the pension benefits?

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Post ID: @oaw+1t0cuD8a

3M transfers a portion of U.S. pension payment obligations
PR Newswire
Thu, Jun 13, 2024, 5:30 AM CDT

ST. PAUL, Minn., June 13, 2024 /PRNewswire/ -- 3M (NYSE: MMM) announced that it purchased a group annuity contract and will transfer a portion of its U.S. pension payment obligations under the 3M Employee Retirement Income Plan (ERIP) to Metropolitan Tower Life Insurance Company (Met Tower Life), an insurance company. Under the contract, 3M will transfer approximately $2.5 billion of its defined benefit pension obligations and related plan assets for approximately 23,000 U.S. retirees and beneficiaries to Met Tower Life. This represents approximately 60% of ERIP retiree participants. The contract was purchased using assets from 3M's ERIP trust and no additional funding contribution was required as part of this transaction.

On October 1, 2024, Met Tower Life will begin paying and administering the retirement benefits of the retirees and beneficiaries included in this annuity transfer. This change will not affect the amount of individuals' monthly benefit payments. This decision does not impact current employees. Retirees and beneficiaries who are included in this annuity transfer will be notified this month.

In connection with this transaction, the company expects to recognize an estimated non-cash pre-tax non-operating pension settlement charge of between $0.8 and $0.9 billion in the quarter ending June 30, 2024. The actual settlement charge will depend on finalization of actuarial assumptions, including discount rate, as well as the fair value of plan assets as of the measurement date. 3M will exclude this settlement charge in arriving at non-GAAP results. Therefore, it will not impact the Company's second quarter or full year 2024 adjusted net income or adjusted free cash flow.

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Post ID: @uuw+1t0cuD8a

Just curious if any current pensioner received notification from MetLife yet or how long that might take?

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Post ID: @cfn+1t0cuD8a

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/3m-transfers-portion-u-pension-103000335.html

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Post ID: @vqj+1t0cuD8a

bad post

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