Thread regarding IBM layoffs

You should know that IBM doesn’t care about you, so why bother staying?

I was an ex IBMer who got RAed recently.

During my 10 year tenure, i saw nothing but customers getting runarounds from IBM executives while getting charged hefty premium for services. Any demands from customers were either met with excuses on why IBM can’t deliver or IBM would do the bare minimum to meet the terms of the contract.

Then when customers eventually terminate services with IBM due to poor treatment, IBM would discipline employees through RA and/or PIP to make up for the lost revenue. There is never any accountability from executives on why customers chose to leave IBM. They actually have no shame and act as dictators. If you ever disagree with their order, they will find a way to get rid of you.

So it’s really funny whenever i see IBM preach about corporate ethics and BCG guidelines. These guidelines only apply to employees who do the work and never the executives.

Looking back. An ex colleague of mine who got RAed a long time ago told one of the clients that IBM would be outsourcing their services to India to save a buck the moment he found out that he was hit with the RA. This actually caused the customer to terminate the contract with IBM. Man i remember the firestorm he caused within IBM as the contract was worth a couple million dollars i think.

One thing he said that stuck with me to this day was ‘There is no such thing as ethics or emotions in business. You have to do what is best for you. No one will help you when times get tough’

I didn’t understand what he meant by then, but i think i do now after witnessing the horrors of IBM management’s actions during my 10 year tenure.

Just be aware. Don’t join IBM unless you absolutely have to. Always look for an exit as executives just view you as a number on the spreadsheet.

by Anonymous
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Post ID: @OP+1snaakHH
Comment! It's anonymous!

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Because I get paid an outrageous amount of money to work 3 hours a day

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Post ID: @3zuk+1snaakHH

You posted the same on Reddit. There's no need to post it everywhere. One site will suffice to display your ignorance about how the corporate world works.

by Anonymous
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Post ID: @amz+1snaakHH

It's only going to get worse until IBM finally collapses. IBM is a 20-30k employee company that employs 10 times that many, even after selling off most of its lines of business.

IBM's sole sources of consistent, stable income at this point are mainframes and legacy software. Poughkeepsie, San Jose, RTP and a few other major sites are keeping the company in business. You don't need armies of overpaid executives to run all that stuff, yet IBM still has them in droves. It will all come to an end.

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Post ID: @sws+1snaakHH

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see who and what is driving IBM now. You either bow down to the corporate communists or leave, It's that simple. This is the sad new world order in how corporations are conducted. I will say that IBM will provide no real value in the future, which is why I personally decided to leave. I'm not sure why anyone would want to stay at ibm unless they personally enjoy blowing the exec class for crumbs.

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Post ID: @agr+1snaakHH

A pity that there is no mention of the number of Senior VPs, VPs, Directors, Partners, Associate partners, Distinguished engineers and managers that report in to one another at IBM, particularly in IBM Consulting and Sales. What do the majority of them do , except earn huge paychecks for running to meetings and achieving nothing at the end of the day ? It's just another way of kicking the can down the road where the customer gets nothing of value from these senior managers and executives. In some cases, you have over 7 or more levels of VPs, senior managers and executives reporting to one another and doing nothing but handling 2 or 3 accounts and dissatisfied customers. Expect worse results in Q2 2024 and beyond if the organizations are not flattened. And don't send the jobs to India, it will just make the situation worse. Indian executives just hire more Indian employees who promise a lot but rarely deliver much of value. You end up with a bureaucratic nightmare. Why not use AI instead ?

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