Thread regarding 3M layoffs

Facts Those Over 40 Need to Know: Layoff Targets

The Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA) protects applicants and employees who are 40 years of age or older from employment discrimination based on age.

Actions Prohibited By the ADEA
Under the ADEA, it is unlawful to discriminate against a person because of his or her age with respect to any term, condition, or privilege of employment, including hiring, firing, promotion, layoff, compensation, benefits, job assignments, and training. Harassing an older worker because of age is also prohibited.

It is also unlawful to retaliate against an individual for opposing employment practices that discriminate based on age or for filing an age discrimination charge, testifying, or participating in any way in an investigation, proceeding, or litigation under the ADEA.

The ADEA permits employers to favor older workers based on age even when doing so adversely affects a younger worker who is 40 or older.

ADEA protections also include:

Advertisements and Job Notices

The ADEA generally makes it unlawful to include age preferences, limitations, or specifications in job notices or advertisements. A job notice or advertisement may specify an age limit only in the rare circumstances where age is shown to be a "bona fide occupational qualification" (BFOQ) reasonably necessary to the normal operation of the business.

Apprenticeship Programs

It is generally unlawful for apprenticeship programs, including joint labor-management apprenticeship programs, to discriminate on the basis of an individual's age. Age limitations in apprenticeship programs are valid only if they fall within certain specific exceptions under the ADEA or if the EEOC grants a specific exemption.

Pre-Employment Inquiries

The ADEA does not explicitly prohibit an employer from asking an applicant's age or date of birth. However, such inquiries may deter older workers from applying for employment or may otherwise indicate possible intent to discriminate based on age, contrary to the purposes of the ADEA. If the information is needed for a lawful purpose, it can be obtained after the employee is hired.

Benefits

The Older Workers Benefit Protection Act of 1990 (OWBPA) amended the ADEA to specifically prohibit employers from denying benefits to older employees. Congress recognized that the cost of providing certain benefits to older workers is greater than the cost of providing those same benefits to younger workers, and that those greater costs might create a disincentive to hire older workers. In limited circumstances, an employer may be permitted to reduce certain benefits based on age, as long as the cost the employer incurs to provide those benefits to older workers is no less than the cost of providing the benefits to younger workers.

Employers are permitted to coordinate retiree health benefit plans with eligibility for Medicare or a comparable state-sponsored health benefit.
Waivers of ADEA Claims or Rights

The ADEA sets specific requirements that permit waivers of claims or rights in certain circumstances. Waivers are common in settling discrimination claims or in connection with exit incentive or other employment termination programs. To be valid, the waiver must meet minimum standards to be considered knowing and voluntary. Among other requirements, a valid ADEA waiver must:
*be in writing and be understandable;
*specifically refer to ADEA rights or claims;
*not waive rights or claims that may arise in the future;
*be in exchange for valuable consideration in addition to anything of value to which the individual already is entitled;
*advise the individual in writing to consult an attorney before signing the waiver; and
provide the individual with a certain amount of time to consider the agreement before signing:

For individual agreements, at least 21 days,
For "group" waiver agreements, at least 45 days,
For settlements of ADEA discrimination claims, a "reasonable" amount of time.
If an employer requests an ADEA waiver in connection with an exit incentive or other employment termination program involving a group, the minimum requirements for a valid waiver are more extensive. See Understanding Waivers of Discrimination Claims in Employee Severance Agreements" at https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/qa-understanding-waivers-discrimination-claims-employee-severance-agreements

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I am close to 55 and work for a large plant. I actually don't mind and in fact looking forward to a severance package. Hope Bill will handout the first cut in his first tenure.

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Post ID: @gmse+1sQMNkzN

They're targeting age in plants but if you file an age discrimination complaint they promote you quick to shut it down. This company is gross.

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Post ID: @3uaz+1sQMNkzN

Obvious, 3M targets age ranges. Performance and results do not matter.

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Post ID: @3zwe+1sQMNkzN

Reading through these comments, all of a sudden, dozens of JE's I've seen make sense. It is targeted. 3M is targeting certain groups of people.

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Post ID: @1cqe+1sQMNkzN

@1ren+1sQMNkzN
Transparency, yes - we should all know how it works. Thank-you! Great post. It works similar to what I would have expected. More importantly, JE process does not work how 3M says it does. We need to know more. Employees deserve to know how things really work. New 3M Code of Conduct Principle 1.

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Post ID: @1wlt+1sQMNkzN

@1ren+1sQMNkzN
3M, having been caught more than once, knows how to execute "legally". A lot of highly paid lawyers enable leadership and HR to do their dirty work. Older employees, Pension 1, and long time 3Mer's being targeted for layoffs. Yes, a few younger people might be lost to accomplish the objectives. Some younger people will magically find new jobs. I've seen it happen many times.
Prepare for the inevitable. You will need recorded conversations, copies of emails and other documentation to prove your case. Collect evidence before it is too late.
When you get the unexpected meeting invite, then you'll be ready to bust this sick JE game. Get a great attorney. 3M will pay as they have used up all their ageism tokens.
As has been reported before, "many current and former Harris employees allege that Brown is cutting costs by getting rid of more experienced and more expensive engineers in favor of younger engineers with less experience." Brown was hired for a reason. Older employees, Pension 1, and long time 3Mer's being targeted for layoffs.

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Post ID: @1vsb+1sQMNkzN

I was a director at 3M and executed numerous layoffs. IMO, here’s how it works. HR, in conjunction with senior management, determine the number of employees to be laid off. They then select a balance of older employees offset by younger employees so they can pass a “disparate impact” analysis conducted by HR lawyers. The lawyers then divide the reporting group (those reported as impacted in the paperwork you receive when axed) so the numbers look balanced. The disparate impact analysis is the longest part of the downsizing process as the lawyers rebalance the numbers to get it just right. If you were to run the broad statistics (which are never published), you will see a bimodal distribution with large blocks of older and younger employees being impacted. That is not a natural distribution (I also was a Master Black Belt).

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Post ID: @1ren+1sQMNkzN

When I was impacted last year, those in my area that I knew of that were impacted were all on the portfolio 1 pension. I had a direct report with very little experience that they kept. I can't say it was age discrimination, but I can say it looked fishy.

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Post ID: @gwp+1sQMNkzN

I hope Dr Bedingham is successful. I hope 3M has to justify every transfer that happened with in, say, 2 months of a RIF to show that they did not protect a younger employee at the expense of older ones. Because I can think of a good example in my former group.

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Post ID: @qpq+1sQMNkzN

I tried for years to postulate to new jobs internally but it never happened and I finally understood my colleague were in the same situation where their boss did blocked them to change. Since I am old my perimeter of job and liked division changed 3 times already. How do you think the reason is if not age related? I am very happy in my last assignment but this question is still strange to me and I would like to really share to younger to be careful about the way we are treated.

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Post ID: @dlw+1sQMNkzN

My manager criticized a direct report and another on the larger team based on nationality. This same manager kept asking when one of my direct reports would retire and referenced this person’s age.

I did report the conversations to HR but since I did not have a recording or other proof the behavior was ignored.

This is what some senior managers do, especially if they have no other work experience except for 3M.

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Post ID: @eyy+1sQMNkzN

3M learned a lot when it lost a massive age discrimination lawsuit years ago.

Simply Google = 3M age discrimination

There are dozens of tricks 3M does to make it appear legit. One trick is to simply layoff older and younger employees. Surprise! Many of the younger employees find jobs after their JE. 3M's claim is that there was no age discrimination. "Look at our disclosure of ages" In fact, it was an elaborate show orchestrated by 3M executives.

Another HR trick backfired on 3M as the scientist figured it out within the last year.

SCIENTIST AND PRODUCT DEVELOPER SUES 3M FOR AGE DISCRIMINATION

Dr. William Bedingham, a successful, dedicated 3M employee for over 35 years, has sued 3M in Ramsey County alleging he was selected for termination based on his age. Dr. Bedingham, who was 63 years old at the time of his termination, is represented by Lead Counsel Larry Schaefer at Schaefer Halleen, LLC, a Minneapolis-based Firm recognized nationally for its depth of experience in this field.

According to Mr. Schaefer, 3M knowingly and intentionally required Dr. Bedingham to exclusively work in a business area it knew would be eliminated to ensure that Dr. Bedingham would be impacted by a reduction-in-force ("RIF") – at great cost savings to 3M through reduced pension payments and salary. 3M engaged in this egregious action despite Dr. Bedingham's uniformly positive performance reviews and prolific accomplishments over the course of his career. His accomplishments include being principally responsible for over 100 patents in a variety of business areas, as well as being awarded the prestigious "Minnesota Inventor of the Year" and "Corporate Circle of Excellence" awards.

While 3M assured that younger, less qualified employees were insulated from the RIF by assigning them fabricated "critical maintenance" roles the day prior to the RIF was implemented, Dr. Bedingham was not afforded such protections. Despite such blatant discrimination, 3M continued to benefit from Dr. Bedingham's expertise, even after he was terminated, by requesting his signature on multiple patentable inventions that Dr. Bedingham had developed in recent years.

"We intend to hold 3M fully accountable for its treatment of Dr. Bedingham, and any other older workers who have been treated similarly by 3M," asserts Schaefer. "Every worker deserves to be treated with dignity and respect, especially when they near retirement age. We will not allow 3M to force workers into retirement in violation of Minnesota law," he added.

WHEN YOU ARE GIVEN A "GREAT OPPORTUNITY" FROM YOUR LEADER, ASK YOURSELF IF IT REALLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY OR WHETHER YOU ARE BEING SETUP BY LEADERSHIP AND HR FOR A JOB ELIMINATION. THIS IS A PUBLIC CASE THAT PROVIDES INSIGHT TO HOW 3M OPERATES.

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Post ID: @owx+1sQMNkzN

Do we have any proof that there's age discrimination going on? Or even any claims?

Or is it just that 3M settled a lawsuit years ago and now some people over 40 have been laid off?

Because I saw the list of job grades and ages that was given to the folks who were let go, and it sure didn't seem tilted towards older workers.

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