Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

Xerox's toughest competition is HCL

Want to know why Xerox will fail? HCL. If we could give good customer support, everything else can be overcome. Because of HCL, we lose customers, sales people, service people, the opportunity to sell more products, and leadership continues to spew Bull**** about how we are turning this ship around without any realization about how bad things are. The people who are still here have 0 trust in leadership and HCL which cannot lead to good results.

For you office fans out there, remember when Jim and Dwight team up on the sales call and Dwight calls Office Depot/Staples and Jim calls Kelly for customer support? This is exactly our customers experience with HCL. Xerox big shot says well we are working on a process, or all the other manufacturers have a similar setup. Its been 4 years of working on the process...it hasn't improved. I wish I could say these are one offs and are not normal.
Check out these facts:

  1. Leases still not closed out within a month or six (not exaggerating) of delivery, nor new leases started.
  2. Customers call the service or supplies line, hear cows and chickens in the background, or even better, limited English and hung up on.
  3. Equipment either is removed from contract randomly, or never put on contract.
  4. Billing is beyond awful. Because equipment is not put on contract immediately after delivery, customer will get a large overage invoice, a internal cost invoice, or my favorite, a completely different customers invoice.
  5. Emailing HCL for support only goes 2 ways. No response, or 3-4 days with the awesome reply of asking for information that neither service nor sales has, ended by a "do the needful".
  6. Customer support or worse $30k+ transactions held up because of less than $100 invoices. Incorrect invoices make up a good portion of these client holds.
  7. HCL consistently says one thing as fact, only to be wrong.

These issues are not a quarterly, monthly, weekly or even daily issue, they are an HOURLY issue. Not one hour goes by without a customer blindsiding us with an issue, or without HCL requesting something that sales has no access to.
The solution I think makes sense for Xerox, is to bring it in house. Either provide your sales teams with the tools to do some of this, or hire some people to handle the regions. Yes it will be more expensive to hire stateside, but issues will be resolved faster and with less occurrences. Looking at the big picture, Xerox would stand to gain much more because there would be more revenue, and less loss of revenue.

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Post ID: @OP+1s6TWpGv

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Outsourcing "repeatable" tasks to HCL was the beginning of the end for Xerox. I know for a fact there are many of us in the U.S. who spend a lot of time every day correcting HCL errors. This is on top of our other responsibilities which have increased due to IRIF's. Yes, it would be an expensive venture but bringing all the work back to the U.S. would be a step in the right direction. Most likely will not happen, though. I saw this the Canadian operations started. Tech's continually hang up till they got a U.S. call center person. Eventually, Canada became very good. HCL...will never get any better. I agree, bad customer service will be the end of Xerox.

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Post ID: @xdpk+1s6TWpGv

HCL saving Xerox money was only one of a thousand lame brain ideas the senior executives implemented. This is what happens when CEOs who try to learn in a week what our business does and look at actuaries for data. Sell sell sell is the new talk track, but nobody wants what Xerox and HCL are now cooking.

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Post ID: @6lqd+1s6TWpGv

HCL = Helping Customer's Leave ... right!
Everybody KNOWS this .. except the Senior Managers, who know Nothing.
Oh Well ....

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Post ID: @4waf+1s6TWpGv

HCL is dominating all corporations. CEO only has responsibility to shareholders. It's about the street and the stock price. AI will fix everything

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Post ID: @2etl+1s6TWpGv

I was downsized 6 weeks ago now. It gives me some clarity now looking in from the outside. I thought sales agencies would be the death of Xerox, I was wrong, its sales agencies AND HCL will be the death of Xerox. These 2 decisions will ultimately be the undoing of this company. Someone above said you get what you pay for....100% correct..in Canada they are advertising for a service technician starting wage 31k...you make more at McDonald's here(not slagging McDonald's). Upper management are sooo out of touch with reality I don't see how the company survives. Sad times.

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Post ID: @2fbx+1s6TWpGv

You get what you pay for! Xerox on the cheap….

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Post ID: @1ynz+1s6TWpGv

It’s a bad idea so xerox is gonna hang on to it with a kung foo grip.
Remember when we could ask customers “how’s everything going “
Now in the field we try not to make eye contact with them

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Post ID: @1fnz+1s6TWpGv

Good Day

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Post ID: @1abf+1s6TWpGv

Around the time UB took over, the internal culture changed to where no senior management ideas could be criticized. The boss was always right. The decisions to offshore fit into that category now so it can never be criticized internally. This is why so many awful ideas have been implemented since then. Ideas are not evaluated on merit, but on who came up with them.

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Post ID: @tab+1s6TWpGv

Hilarious! When I worked in Customer Care. This post explains most of what I had to deal with.. Now that I moved back to being a tech. I only have to deal with them once in a while. Except for the intermittent canceling of contracts. I know of a couple accounts we lost because of that happening. I'm sure there are others I don't know about. Now just trying to make it another year or so, to retire. Too old to move to another company..

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Post ID: @ggw+1s6TWpGv

Welcome to the modern US business world. Every company is doing it and it's a disaster for the customer, the employees, and the company's bottom line. Yet they all think they are making money somehow.

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Post ID: @fgv+1s6TWpGv

Read through the HCL commenrary on this site. Its just as bad as the Xerox comments.

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Post ID: @zzw+1s6TWpGv

My brother works in banking and they are pulling out of HCL due to constant lying, covering up and inadequate staff. Every customer who calls me now to complain goes nowhere. I end up spending my days sorting out toner and not selling

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Post ID: @lby+1s6TWpGv

Every HCL call is an escalation to managers who have no power, who escalate to VP's who have no power, to regional president who has no power and no trust because of empty promises. Inevitably in any given day there are 30-50 escalations to regional presidents that have historically been corrected in 1 communication, but now there are encyclopedic email strings, followed by calendar invites to brainstorm why a customer is on credit hold for a waste toner.

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Post ID: @yrn+1s6TWpGv

It looks to me like the Xerox “leadership” doesnt care about anty of that. They see the “marks on paper” business as going away no matter what they do so they want to try to minimize costs, even if that makes it go away faster. They’d sell whats left, maybe even give it away. In any case, their future doesn't involve the Xerox you and i know. They think they can make it something else; so far Ursula, Icahn, JV and Baldy have all failed to make that transition and it doesnt look like that failed strategy is going to work in the future. More layoffs? Count on it.

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Post ID: @whd+1s6TWpGv

A basket of deplorables

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Post ID: @trq+1s6TWpGv

Not to mention, every internal call with HCL takes multiple-many people to discuss (maybe-potentially resolve) an issue vs. a single or far fewer Xerox subject matter expert.

They have ZERO customer major accounts business acumen. Xerox will lose customer because of HCL service.

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Post ID: @npd+1s6TWpGv

HCL overseas are either liars or sub 80 IQ but they really save money

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Post ID: @zte+1s6TWpGv

Exactly correct. HCL employees are not invested in the success of Xerox. They don't care if Xerox succeeds or fails. They'll just get reassigned to a new project and never look back.

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