Thread regarding 3M layoffs

@2mzs+1remavEV

Does anyone blame anyone when you can't even buy a house or live off the low pay that 40 hours provides now. To get paid how you use to you have to be oversubscribed. Have 4 all remote jobs all pulling 40 hours a week but only put 5 hours of work into each. That's what people are doing now. Unless they increase pay you can't expect someone to put 40 hours of work in. They will only put in the effort for what the pay is.

The work your way benefits the higher level roles, especially those jG15+. They could work at comfort of their homes, run errands, while listening to reports or updates from the working class. The executives won’t remove this , as they are beneficiaries themselves too

There is plenty of abuse, many managers logging on from boats or cabins in summer for 4.5 hours a day. Engineers logging in from there cabin on a cruise ship and bragging about it. Everything is based on trust and you always have people that think they game the system. It's unfair to the workforce that is limited by vacation system and truly lame that so many 3M'rs are abusing the spirit of work your way. No wonder productivity in plants is in the cr-pper when those setting the example are gaming it.

Well, one reason that high school educated person had all that was BECAUSE of the rampant racism and se-ism. Take out the women and the POC and there's a lot less competition! And the losses in WWII made the labor pool even smaller for that generation. There's a lot of reasons we won't see the 50s/60s/70s economy again.

But maybe look back a few more generations to the "great industrialists" aka robber barons. A few very, very rich people and rest .. .not so much.

@1wqw+1remavEV

Yes, what you wrote was once partially true in the US. Some of the key differences between today and back then: (Apart from the rampant racism and s-xism.)

• One high-school educated worker working just 40 hours a week could provide a solid, secure middle-class lifestyle, including retirement, to an entire family where the spouse didn't have a paying job at all. The spouse did most or all of the cooking, shopping, cleaning and other chores to allow your magic 'one third downtime'.

• A person back then that did honest, diligent work at a firm could reasonably expect to have a job with that same firm until retirement (around age 55 to 60).

• A company doing mass layoffs while still turning a profit was generally regarded as dishonest. Senior executives of such companies were basically regarded a thieves.

It isn't the workers that have changed the game to what is is today.

Also, just as a note, back then stock buybacks were generally illegal and the top marginal income tax rates ranged from 70% to 94%.

Beth may be nice and may have a fancy job title, but she is a pawn.

The concept of work/life balance is being over complicated in today's world. Generations that came before us managed full time jobs, family, church, etc., obligations. Today's generations need mental health day, me time, etc., which is ridiculous. Time to grow up and manage your time which is one third work, one third family and one third downtime. Too many people think they are entitled to do all things even though time in life does not make it so. We all need to work to support ourselves and/or families -- just do it. Get back in the office, put structure back into the workplace where it belongs. All of this nonsense is getting us, as a society, no where. Time to grow up.

Knuckleheads called that one!

The moral of the story is join the HCBG company. They will support WYW whilst monish whilst support work 60s hours, get paid for 40, whilst being laid off because wall street say so

Beth has a hard job. Work Your Way is a great program. As the article mentioned, it is a program built on trust. The problem is we have too many “old school” leaders who feel people are not working unless they are in the office. They do not trust their teams.

My manager is one of them. I agreed to allow my local team to work Remote Near. My manager told me that team needed to be in the office even though we are a global team and almost all meetings are done via Teams.

I was allowed to work Remote Distant but my manager said I had to be in the office. My manager is okay with direct reports from other countries not being present in the conference room during a meeting but does not trust the US team.

3M needs someone like Beth to make sure the policy is applied the same to all. HR supported my position (surprisingly) but HR has no power and is ignored by many leaders. My manager is a bully and bullies anyone “below” them, including HR.

Work your way ...glad some have it but when it was explained to me it was also explained that it did not apply to me.
Then I was told to click a button to acknowledge I knew this program exists even though I will never get to utilize it!!!!

Last statement in article: “ We don’t think mandates are the way to adapt.”

Unless it applies to vaccines of course!

Where's the incentive of 3Mers that don't have privilege to work from home? Is it we have a job?

Don’t think this a knock on Beth…it’s one more out of touch decision by the execs to even create roles like this. I believe the point is when fancy roles like this are created it eliminates other true customer facing roles intended to drive results.

Well, not knowing what has come from a role like this is way different than “eliminating jobs with her fancy title”.

I actually understood the article. I just have no idea what has come from a role like this. If they wouldn’t have paid for this article placement, I would have never known this role existed.

You can vote me down and “next” me for standing up for Beth. But I’ll ask you, did you even read the article or are you just making a judgment without doing so? Because the article says that she would work HERSELF out of a job (or at least as the role is constructed today).

And, before you say I’m 3M HR or something like that I tell you that I was eliminated on wave 1 from TEBG (notified in late April of ‘23) and I really REALLY hate 3M.

I personally know Beth and I think she is a wonderful, kind and smart person. If you say “she is going to eliminate jobs with her fancy title” you clearly didn’t understand the article or chose to be bitter just to be bitter.

What next.....good grief.

I did appreciate the "work your way" policies before I was axed. But unfortunately she's just a grain of sand, and the waves created by c-suite bad decisions mean nothing she puts in place can help to save the company or make people want to take jobs there in the future.

Agree with original post, also what a joke. So she was a consultant turned employee and now she is going help eliminate jobs with her fancy title?