I read that states like Michigan do not allow unemployment benefits if you were fired for cause, like poor performance. I also read the amount of unemployment claims a company has affects the taxes they have to pay.
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How were you let go?
A regular layoff, or for poor performance?
In Texas, I filed and gm did not contest it. I got $14k in unemployment for 2023. Its something…
I’m just going to say it:
The people who continue to disregard the mandates and get away with it are the friends and family hires, and … DEI hires.
I don’t think they have any expectations of getting swept away in a mass layoff so they come and go when they damn please.
"Misconduct" is not failing to achieve inhuman levels of perfection, which they call "low performance" as an excuse to get rid of you.
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If GM says you must show up for work on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday for 8 hours and you miss one of those days, by Michigan law, you are ineligible for unemployment if you are fired.
No severance, no bonus, no unemployment.
Further, I doubt you would be eligible for rehire, contract work or in-house (at GM) work with a supplier. They tie your login ID, badge and parking pass with your SS#.
We are going to see a lot of cry-babies fired in the coming months.
There will be plenty of seats, don't worry.
Oh, and all those people will find a job market with few opportunities. They will likely end up under-employed and may face losing their homes and other financed assets.
This is going to get real folks. See: 2008 for historical examples.
I remember not long ago when a lot of people here said they would quit over RTO - that there are so many WFH opportunities. I'm sure none of those people have anything to worry about because they are ki-ling it at another company. Right?
"What court cases have said: Unemployment compensation cases say that to be misconduct, the actions by the worker must be harmful to the interests of the employer, and must be done intentionally or in disregard of the employer’s interests. Actions that are grossly negligent will also be considered misconduct. A single incident of misconduct or of gross negligence may be enough to disqualify a worker from unemployment benefits. A worker who commits many infractions may be disqualified, even if none of the
infractions, alone, would be misconduct resulting in disqualification. However, the final incident in a series, for which the worker is fired, must itself show an intentional disregard of the employer’s interests"
https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Project/Websites/leo/Folder5/Discharge_for_Misconduct_2012.pdf?rev=34d381f2e44d43c3aa9300b334dfa683
"What the law says: This issue is covered by Section 29(1)(b) of the Michigan Employment Security Act. The Act provides that if a worker is fired from a job due to misconduct that occurred in connection with the work, then the worker will be “disqualified” from benefits. The worker must then get another job and have earnings with that employer to requalify” for benefits. But the employer from whom the worker was fired will not be charged for the benefits, even if the worker requalifies and draws benefits."
https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Project/Websites/leo/Folder5/Discharge_for_Misconduct_2012.pdf?rev=34d381f2e44d43c3aa9300b334dfa683
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