PFAS will never go away nor will it ever go away from the news. Back on twin cities news!
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I see the potbelly’s have arisen once again. Man mammaries. LOL.
Why are the votes up and down always manipulated whenever the content is critical to the corporation? Votes up or down DO NOT change the facts. Whomever continually plays these games needs help.
Fake news. Teflon has been a graceful chemical. PFAS or PFOS, it's all bs. These are safe to eat and drink.
Ok, so I'm not defending 3M on this but have you stopped to consider what life would be like if we outlawed pfas today, meaning right this instant. IF everyone would have to surrender anything they owned with pfas in it? Well, you wouldn't have that Apple Watch nor you laptop and your tv and your phone and computer and you wouldn't have all your appliances and credit cards and your wifi router and your car/truck/motorcycle and your public transportation and airplanes and especially ev cars, really everything made today with any electronics especially including lithium batteries are not manufacturable without pfas. You can pretty much revert back to vacuum tubes and carburetors with distributor caps if you outlawed pfas. So like revert to 1960.
ALL CAPS is spot on. As a reminder, 3M was the ONLY producer of PFOS for decades. When PFOS is found in the US, it’s 3M’s. That’ not my opinion, but 3M’s. Deposition testimony from 3M’s expert on 7/24/20…
Q. And based on what you know, sir, about the persistence of PFOS, the overwhelming majority of every molecule of PFOS that's ever been manufactured by 3M is still in existence, correct?
A. That's quite likely. I like your verbiage, the overwhelming majority, that's probably correct. I don't have any actual factual data on that, but that would be my supposition, based on what I know about PFOS.
Q. Yes, sir. So based on what we know about the manufacturing and based on what we know about its persistence, it's just a matter of mathematical probability, that if we find a molecule of PFOS in the environment, particularly here in the United States, more likely than not, 3M is the source; is that fair?
A. That's more likely than not. I know that there's a company in Italy that has manufactured PFOS. There might be other people who have, but I would say just on a proportional basis it's more likely than not.
Q. It's almost certainly true on a proportional basis, just again, from a mathematical perspective, it's most certainly true that if you find a molecule of PFOS in the environment, particularly here in the United States, it's from 3M, fair?
A. That's fair, and one can look at the branching profile of it and get a good idea of that as well.
Q. And I know you probably think I'm belaboring the point, but, in your view…the source, I guess, based on mathematical probability, if we find PFOS in human br---t milk, more likely than not it's from 3M, fair?
A. Yeah. Again, as I said, I'm not going to disagree with that premise, so that's fair.
Q. Okay. And, sir, you're aware that PFOS has been detected in arctic mammals?
A. Yes, I'm certainly aware of that…
Q. And it's famously discussed that you can find PFOS in polar bear blood, correct?
A. Right, that's correct.
Q. And I know you feel like I'm belaboring the point, but there's no question in your mind that the source of PFOS in the polar
bear is from 3M, right?
A. I -- again, it's certainly more likely than not, yes.
Q. Rivers and streams, you're aware that PFOS has been detected and reported in rivers and streams?
A. Yes. Yeah, I have awareness of that, mm-hmm.
Q. And you're aware that PFOS has been detected in ocean waters, both the Atlantic and the Pacific?
A. Yes.
Q. And you're aware that PFOS has been detected in drinking water in the United States and elsewhere, correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. And you're aware that PFOS has been detected in human blood?
A. I'm aware of that, yes.
Q. You're aware that PFOS has been detected in umbilical cord blood as well, correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. It has been detected in shellfish?
A. Yes, there's a question there, yes.
Q. Has it been detected in fish?
A. Yes.
Q. It's been detected in indoor house
A. Yes.
Q. And daycare dust, right?
A. Yes, based on the paper by…, yes.
Q. And I apologize, I'm just going to make this little movie clip, and we'll move on. Has it been detected in outdoor air?
A. Yes.
Q. It's been detected in human br---t milk as well, correct, sir?
A. That's correct.
Q. And last but not least, it's been detected in polar bear blood, right?
A. As well as other arctic mammals, yes, mm-hmm.
Q. Yes, sir. And each and every one of these media all around the world…the source of PFOS is more likely than not 3M, correct?
A: …Yes, I mean, I -- other than the fact that there might be some manufacturing, I think that more likely than not, the source is 3M, yes.
And if I’m not mistaken, 3M proudly sold the forever chemicals to other companies to use in their products.
3M’s PFAS is never going away. It’s the 3M legacy. 3M is the proud inventor of the forever chemical spread for decades into the environment. It's toxic to humans and almost all wildlife. It is spread continuously via water supplies, and 3M, being great at manufacturing, was exceptionally skilled at mass-producing it for decades. This is a case study in the worst possible scenario for any company. The sooner the 3M Bankruptcy, the better because the pain will not end.
Yes, however they are also reporting the different products/ways we are exposed to them. I suspect we will get to a point 3M is not solely responsible.