Thread regarding 3M layoffs

Lot of whiners here

I agree that 3M isn't perfect. It might even be on the way down.

But to read the threads here, it's nothing but people who have left the company years ago complaining about how mean their boss was.

I'm certain that not every manager at Mother M is good, of the last seven that I've had, fine have been actually good and the other two have been competent but just not what I was looking for.

I'm definitely not a 3M cheerleader, but to everyone complaining about how awful everything is here, maybe reflect on the one constant in your list of terrible jobs.

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With the current state of affairs in 3M what else can you expect, a ton of happy employees ?

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Post ID: @7cef+1pJreNgj

Boomer81 you are selling your writing skills short. Great post. Maybe YOU should write a book about the recent history of 3M. You hit the nail on the head on so many things. Just expand on those and fill in the blank years. EZ PZ Lemon Squeezy.

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Post ID: @7vsz+1pJreNgj

Ok, I agree the swipe against the US Vice President was not necessary. I let my personal feelings for her seep into my rhetoric. I am not a fan of Biden or Trump either if that matters. Good leadership in politics and corporate America is rare. It will be an interesting 2024 to be sure.

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Post ID: @6qcw+1pJreNgj

Was with you for most of that, Boomer81. I think the swipe at the US VP was unnecessary, though. I'm not a fan, but the VP position is always chosen to appeal to a different demographic/ideology than the President. Chasing votes is a bit different from hiring for a job. And since you're a Boomer, you must remember Dan Quayle, Walter Mondale, and Spiro Agnew. Can't blame DEI for everything! I think your thoughts on focusing on quarterly numbers (and may I say the stock price) are accurate. An independent Board would help, too

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Post ID: @5gne+1pJreNgj

I would say the overall issue at 3M, for at least the last 20 years, is not the people in the trenches doing the work. It is the direction the company is going and the leadership team that makes those decisions. I was let go at the end of 2015 with 2000 other employees at the time. I was a 35 year employee that had risen to a JG15 with a track record of good results and good reviews. 2016 Q1 earnings were forecasted to come in low so the easy solution was to cut headcount. I was unceremoniously let go during that holiday season. To be honest, I was devastated at the time.

And yes I had many poor managers and some good ones. I will go on record and say the 3M HR department is a complete cluster f*ck from top to bottom. During the McNerney reign HR became “yes” people and turned their alliance from the employees to the corporation. Everything said and done by HR was now to protect the company.

I can still remember the forced rankings of performance in our annual performance reviews. What a disservice to the employees. I could barely sleep at night. I can also remember the “age requirement” that was used in part to choose six sigma black belts. It wasn’t even kept a secret and talked about openly by the leaders of the company. This resulted in a discrimination suit against 3M. I pushed back through the channels available to me but received punishment for doing so on my own appraisal.

More recently, it is the focus on diversity, equity, and inclusion over quality in job selection. Or my favorite, affirmative action. Let’s choose the race and gender prior to posting the job listing. Sounds like our own US Vice President. Job selection and promotion was no longer primarily driven by an applicant’s merits. 3M HR is a totally worthless department, in my opinion.

SAP BT was initiated to revolutionize how business was done during that time period. So billions of dollars were spent and 1000’s of employees were reassigned to make this transition. It was a failure of epic proportions. I have been out of the loop but I would be curious to know if that is still being implemented and the cost savings realized.

People were promoted through the six sigma black belt program and many landed in top leadership roles with little to no experience in the departments they would lead. Instead of having a background in that area, the new leaders only knew a business process to follow. This resulted in so many cost reductions efforts that the very fiber that 3M was known for, innovation, was torn apart. Experience and knowledge were not valued as much.

Cost savings was the holy grail and this resulted in short terms gains but long term it just kicked a can down the road. But those short term savings were proudly paraded up and down Wall Street. That’s when 3M became laser focused on meeting quarterly earnings, regardless of the cost. Instead of setting and maintaining a course of good leadership and management principles it began a knee jerk reaction to the events of the business world on a 3 month frequency. The stock price was rewarded handsomely and the shareholders loved it. But inside 3M core values and practices were beginning to rot.

That proverbial can is now what is resulting in mass layoffs, company spin-offs, stock price decline, etc. I am saddened how this story of 3M is playing out. It was a great company. It really was. Someone with more literary talent than me will come out with a book in the next year or two. It will be a cautionary tale about 3M and what not to do. It will be interesting. I will certainly buy a copy.

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Post ID: @5nvp+1pJreNgj

How do you handle when your friend keeps whining and complaining, but he keeps getting promoted while you are stagnant in career? I am sick and tired to hear his complaints. At least he is well compensated now, and should expect to do more since he got his promotion.

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Post ID: @2vlk+1pJreNgj

To the person that has defined their employment as ‘fine’ I guess unless you’re close to retirement, I’d entertain some of those competitive offers from the outside. Sadly, I don’t see a lot of new opportunities from within.

Also agree with the person who said if you’re so happy why are you on this site to begin with?

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Post ID: @1xzy+1pJreNgj

This entire site revolves around sharing info and experiences related to job cuts and challenging in-service environments, and offering support for individuals facing similar difficulties. So it's quite logical that someone who feels they've' been treated poorly would seek for a place to express his feelings and might end up finding this site as an appropriate place to vent. What I find less logical is that someone who is fulfilled and satisfied with their work-life balance would even search for this page, not to mention preach to others how they should live their lives. But hey, that's just me.

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Post ID: @1vsq+1pJreNgj

I agree with OP.

Things may not be roses at 3M, but ownership and self-reflection remain in short supply.

If you’re not fulfilled, then resign and move on. And if you can’t find an equivalent job/salary outside, then again self-reflect. I haven’t seen any surprises with the upgrades/downgrades the laid-off employees have found.

This is coming from someone who’d define their 3M employment as ‘fine’ and has declined competitive outside offers.

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Post ID: @1pmc+1pJreNgj

Stop whining

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Post ID: @1jwv+1pJreNgj

What an unpleasant person you must be.

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