For all of us left, we need everyone to unionize so they can no longer use and abuse us.
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Someone needs to watch the Office episode where Jan explains to Michael like a 5 year old why unionization won't work...
Joining a union won't change staffing levels. It didn't for the CWA and their contract with the carriers. They all have allowances to use vendors to supplement. The GCs that supported us were non-union and very efficient. The post about layoffs via seniority are spot on. You can be the best and brightest but low on seniority and be laid off or reassigned 50 miles away. The 401K match and merit based bonus will change as all are equal, everyone under contract gets the same %. The only difference was how much OT you accrued. Your pay will contribute to a union defined plan. Who would unionize??? PC/OC, CM, Techs and some support staff, if you don't report hours you're management and exempt. I was on both sides, labor and mgmt in CWA, and labor in IBEW. If you were incompetent, late, lazy, or mouthy in IBEW you were gone. CWA, "house" unions, spent most of the time covering for those folks. No reason crown can't put 90% of support in 2 or 3 centers in right to work States. Remember when we used to build towers and now we don't, wonder why??
I posted a union comment on this board when they did the layoffs a couple years ago and the idea got massacred with down votes. It is fascinating to see the reaction hover around even this time.
I never liked the idea. Employees in businesses with them seem just as miserable as us, and often times the union bosses become as corrupt as the corporate boards. That being said, at this point I’m open to it out of spite.
100% agreed. Ive been reading up on it and the rules favor the corporations so it's not an easy road, but it is absolutely possible and we should absolutely try!
Frontier, Verizon and AT&T are all represented by the CWA. Most of their members are miserable and getting laid off all the time. Except they don’t lay off based on performance. It is all about seniority. Last one in, first one out. The grass isn’t always greener.
Multiple offices in MA/PA/NY/MD talking to CWA.
No one outside of the rust belt would support this, and with Canonsburg being quickly replaced with Houston it'll never happen.
Unions are never the answer.
Amazon warehouse workers and drivers, baristas at Starbucks have all tried to unionize and they can’t seem to gain any traction. Even in union friendly states like New York. What makes you think people at Crown will do any better in the mostly right to work states that Crown operates in.
Be careful. They would suddenly make all PMs have people report to them and then they wouldn’t be able to unionize because they would be in managerial positions. But S, T, and P band positions could.
I used to work for a company that would close the office if an office mentioned union. Be careful what you wish for.
AT&T stock is not affected by their union. Their stock is affected by their business practices and their stock saturation.
AT&T is unionized and look where it’s gotten them. Their stock is doing even worse than ours.
already talking about it in our office.
Be careful what you wish for, however the union would actually force crown to staff the operations teams appropriately
I know many in my office will support this.