I’ve been doing about 5 per week for last month and it seems to be okay.
I just put myself in a bunch of meetings I make on my calendar and take really long to respond. I’m interviewing for other jobs since this place su-ks and it’s been nice
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@1ltv - I would expect anyone leading an organization works a sh-t load of hours. It must be a high pressure/high stress job with no time for having a life. For the kind of money they make, I wouldn’t expect any less. That is why the wives have golden handcuffs.
I wouldn’t want to do their job. No matter what you pay me.
I dont think most of you have room to talk about the amount of hours you work. How about comparing your company work time with Ford leadership? You have no idea how many hours it takes to lead an organization like Model e or Ford Pro for example.
@OP. How many hours a week do I work? Well, that depends on what you define as "work". Are useless meetings "work"? Are periods of time with no workload "work"? Are reading/answering emails "work"? Is dealing with the bureaucracy "work"? Is training "work"? Depending on the answers I could be working 42-45 hours a week, or just a few.
@asw+1oNpIdqI For a guy that has figured out his own life, you sound angry. While I agree with most of your post, I'm not anybody's mom, so I don't care what others are doing with their lives.
I know people at Ford that are just there collecting a paycheck. Some have the skills, but not the drive (I am one of them). Others have no technical skills whatsoever. There are also a very few in this company that have the skills and the drive to work, and they are squeezed mercilessly by the managers, putting a lot of unpaid OT every week.
I have seen the same in many other companies. Yes, there was a time when I had the drive, and worked very hard. It didn't help me very much. I was squeezed dry by managers, while their friends were promoted or they just didn't do much work without any consequence. I was let go a few times, no matter how hard I worked. Life is not fair and I am fine with that.
The other thing I realized during my work life, is that good times never last, and good teams even less. Managers get promoted, people leave for other positions or companies, and they get replaced by a--holes or favorites. Or we all lose our jobs because it is cheaper doing it elsewhere.
I started at Ford willing and able to do the job. But, as it happened before, the good team I was in, disintegrated in time. I am still willing and able to do my job, I just don't care to put extra hours. If my time is spent in meetings, I am not going to do the work in my own unpaid personal time, especially when the company is outsourcing the NA jobs. I am too old to fall in the same pit again.
Yes, I have looked elsewhere, and went to interviews. In general, most of the jobs I found paid less than mine, and require more than 40 hours of work a week. The few ones that I was interested in, well, it seems they prefer younger employees or maybe I was just not a good fit to their teams. I never received feedback as to why they went with other candidate.
Right now, with my house paid for and money in the bank, after years of living below my means, I don't have the big economical pressure of having a salary. I entertained the idea of changing careers, going for something else. Still not sure, we'll see how it pans out. After 30 years of work, with no pension, why should I care for having a career? I just need a job, and I still have one at Ford, but IDK for how long.
However, I do have time for my family and myself, and we are trying to enjoy ourselves before we no longer can. My wife and I already lost friends of our own age: two were by cancer (non smoking persons), one of complications (a heavy smoker). I don't want a career where I work endlessly, I want a job where I can be useful, but still have time for my family.
I work 30'sh hours a week, take all my vacation, use my personnel time when possible. I do my job, better than 90% of my young co-workers. After 25 years I have survived the yearly layoffs because it is not the number of hours you "work" that counts, it is what you deliver. Some ask why not do more if you really deliver more? When I was fighting to get promoted to LL6 10 years ago I was told by multiple managers that I could never be considered for promotion because Ford only wanted young people who could be promoted two or three time, or that fit a DEI demographic. Well, this Old White Guy Christen decided to jump off the Ford promotion scam train and just do my job. 30 hours a week is all I need to work to deliver more than my 30 something clueless DEI manager of the month wants. Two more years to 55 and retirement.
LOL the amount of corporate cogs in this comment section. Fu-k ford, leach those wages.
Idk how you're putting in such little hours. Everyone I know is overwhelmed.
Ya know, I'm 25 years into my Ford career and these types of post just disgust me. Trust me when I tell you that I've been disgruntled at times and have worked for some really terrible bosses. However, I've always still tried to do my job to the best of my ability!
You should be ashamed of yourselves, you little whining babies! It's no wonder that the company is going to force everyone to return to the office!
@asw+1oNpIdqI are making claims of how great of employees they are. Why don't you just quit or find another job.
Never said I was a great employee, just answering the OPs original question and giving it some context. No reason for me to quit because I can easily retire whenever I want. Why not retire then? No reason to. Not missing out on family or anything else in life because I've always looked at work as "just a job" and have had a great work-life balance for many years.
Of course, you are not responsible for your own future. You have made a very clear argument that you -- Are a Victim.
As an outsider (a Ford supplier) - it is amazing to me how many people on this website are making claims of how great of employees they are - yet the company performance is pathetic. You would think with all the stellar employees on this website, the company would be another Tesla! Yet - your company can barely even produce a QUALITY product of any type (EV or gasoline) after over 100 years in business.
The fact is - Ford has always been a bad company! You pretend to be a great employee, but you can't figure this last sentence out. What are you waiting for - do you actually think it will someday be a great place to work with high caliber, productive coworkers. It is never going to happen. It is just a company full of employees - everyone of them telling themselves how great they are and how terrible everyone else is. It just gets worse year over year. I left an engineering role in the late 90's for many of the same reasons you are all here whining about in CY2023. I quit and went to work for Kroger for a few years, until I could finally get a good engineering job/role at an automotive supplier. I didn't blame the company, all my peer employees, nobody. I just realized the company s-u-c--k-e-d and I took responsibility for my own future. It WAS NOT fun - a huge paycut, etc. But I didn't want to sit around crying like you are. You act like you are owed something from Ford. They don't owe you anything. No company does!
So, quit wasting your time crying on a website (that you are a victim of the company, your coworkers, etc.) - take charge of your life - and find a new journey!
So, since you are unable to take care of yourself - let me provide you a plan (I guess your mama isn't helping you out anymore, so I will step in for her):
- Just quit - don't make excuses (I have heard them all)
- Create/fine tune your resume - you are at Ford - how much "good" experience can you possibly have!
- Get another job (where it is not so miserable for you)
- Go on with your life (and hopefully be healthier also)
Peter Brand.
I am available to work 10 hours per day (i.e., I am at or near my desk from 7-5), but the fact I only get 2-3 productive hours in per day has less to do with my work ethic and more to do with useless meetings and the slowness of other people I am dependent upon to get my job done.
More trolls...
Because of people like you I am easily putting in 50-60 hours a week.
Overdue to return to office.