Those who have marketable skills will certainly not wait here to get cut but are already sending resumes to get out of this terrible atmosphere.
I think there will be a mass departure of people because everyone I know has started job hunting.
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@1nrp- JF was pi---d by the media response? What a baby! He is more concerned with his imagine than screwing all these people? Unbelievable! I don’t know how he can look at himself in the mirror. I wouldn’t trade lives with him for anything.
I hear my manager talk about moving more IT work to India. What is strange, is how my Indian coworkers are upset!!! One commented “they are moving my job to Chennai”.
What an irony!
According to a LL2 who was drunk at a recent family barbeque, anyone working on ICE projects are main targets for involuntary separations. No more packages to be offered, LL2 also said that people will be fired at will if their workload is mainly ICE related. HR will send the grim reaper at will to avoid bad PR in the news (no more massive layoffs). LL2 said that JF was pretty upset with the bad image he got in the media, he wanted to be seen as a savvy CEO. HR already identified people who will be dismissed every other month. LL2 was concerned with losing more people with experience and be unable to stop the bleeding. LL2 already mentioned which GSR's are going to be fired because the have more than 25 years seniority. LL2 already told them through a surrogate to start looking for another job.
1llg+1nm3LC6g I 100% agree
Here are some realities, as I see them:
- employers are only generous to their employees to make them stay
- it’s always been this way
- Ford can often get replacement workers with acceptable skills either by importing foreign labor or exporting the work
- if you want US companies that sell to the US market to compete for US workers, you have to eliminate their foreign options
- other countries protect their workers and their markets and everyone thinks this is OK
I doubt a major exodus will take place but know people are looking to leave. Beyond all the job cuts, people are just miserable in this toxic environment.
Our group is so called coached by this mo--n. He is a consultant probably getting paid top dollars. While Ford are let go, he is there coaching PDOs. In every coaching session which 100s are forced to attend this guy tells that "you guys are not smart not working efficiently and do as I say I guarantee your output will increase 10x". He has some protégé kissing his a-s. Same people are presented as examples. People are over worked half of the jobs are already gone to Indian.
Whole teams are being fired and replaced by teams in India. "Digital Thread" is alive just run by teams in India. Manufacturing Digital engineering is supported from India ironically there is no manufacturing plants in India.
Ford thank you for making us feel worthless and shipping our jobs overseas. Now why they getting $9 mil loan from our tax money.
Write to local newspapers. Elected representative, president anyone and everyone you can reach to.
I will keep providing a great value to Ford, because my work ethics is not going to be impacted by the way we're being treated.
But, I will exit as soon as a good opportunity comes by.
Folks stay in jobs they don't like or potentially feel undervalued at, as it's usually the best economic decision for them and their family. The big mistake for some of us older folks was staying at Ford till we got SIRP'ed was a) trusting our job would be safe because of good performance and b) viewing the pension as golden handcuffs. The pension only starts to significantly escalate at the tail end of 30 year career. You can work 20+ years at Ford and get the short end of the stick. They get 65-70% of your active career and you end up with 30%-35% of your matured pension.
The job market is definitely tighter now than the last go around. I was let go last August and had the fortune of landing a job quickly. Best wishes to all affected this go around. Ford will keep cutting to make up for incompetent leadership.
Thay will hire people that nobody else wants. Look at the people they keep hired at the top levels. What’s funny is that even those people are quitting on their own. (for crying out loud we had a furniture guy running an automotive company. that was money well spent. But we did learn how to open a bag of chips. )
It's exactly like Elon's Twitter. All the talant that could leave - did leave. It's left with green-card employees and employees not talented enough to compete for another job.
Ford will be left with people waiting out pensions and those not talented enough to compete for another job.
Ford thinks they can attract people to work in Dearborn by replacing their old office buildings with fancy new ones.
They’re clueless. If the money is good and the job is good and the management is fair, people will sit on milk crates in a cement floor warehouse.
“Then bemoaning the fact that they can’t find US talent…”
They also shot themselves in the nasties with their OWN policy of refusing to rehire “separated” employees into other areas of the company.
There were many people who were ousted that would rather work at in some other part of the company than relocate. The management leaves much to be desired, but most of the other people you work with aren’t so bad.
Ford will retain those who can’t find another job and those who want to hang on for the promise of retiring with a pension.
Ford will not be attracting new talent. They will be bottom fishing in the 3rd tier applicants pool. Then bemoaning the fact that they can’t find US talent will ship even more jobs offshore.
There is NO job market out there. NOTHING.
The only people who will stay are those who have no better options.
That’s me - still a pension eligible with 5-10 years until retirement.
I hope people leave en masse.
But, most will stay.
Bigger question is, who will come?
Why would you not send your resume out?
What is there to stay for? Mediocre pay and worrying you will be next on the chopping block?