Thread regarding Ford layoffs

The goal: fit so of NA salaried in the glass house, RTO full-time

That's what China and Mexico and Brazil are all about. Ford loved 2020 divesting itself of all those buildings. And it wants to keep the savings. The full RTO has been put off despite pressure from state and local politicians because Ford wants to limit it's building footprint in the Dearborn area. Once the NA work force fits comfortably into the existing buildings, full RTO is coming.

Ford HR is also tired of the tax implications of so many remote workers. It's been a logistical nightmare dealing with all of the states and their complex income tax laws. Even the states without income tax causes a nightmare for HR because their systems were not setup to handle that. So remote workers get reported to the state of Michigan erroneously and then it takes manual intervention to unwind all of that. Not to mention the worker's comp and unemployment implications. It's a complete mess and has been since COVID.

So once the layoffs (and they are huge impacting every part of the company) are completed, any remaining remote workers will be given the choice to relocate or quit. And full RTO will become a reality.

Management's thinking is that if full RTO results in people quitting, that's just more headcount to outsource.

Our LL3 told us all last year that this isn't your daddy's Ford, that this is the new Ford and that not everyone would be making this journey with the company. It was an ominous warning and it was followed with two sizable layoffs, and the promise of more in the future.

Welcome to the future!

Note: those of you in denial with your head in the sand can ignore this and dismiss it as hearsay.. But this info comes from a retired LL4 who was in the know and still routinely talks to former colleagues. You've been warned.

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Post ID: @OP+1nfkfRzi

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I am also ready for RTO if that is what Mr Ford feels is best for our company.

Honestly, I prefer to stay close to my LL6 and LL5. I like for them to see me working. I get there before they arrive and I leave after they do. And I make sure to rub elbows with then when chatting during lunch or after work at the bar

I think it is better for my career to RTO.

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Post ID: @1cms+1nfkfRzi

If our leadership says RTO is the best way forward for company success, than that is what we all should do.

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Post ID: @udp+1nfkfRzi

@fjt+1nfkfRzi is right. This is why Ford didn't hire remote at scale like they did after COVID. The manual workarounds in accounting for remote workers was kept to a minimum. It became onerous after the pandemic and they went to reign it back in.

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Post ID: @tjb+1nfkfRzi

There going to be a delay in some office space:

An incident at the construction site of the new Ford central campus building in Dearborn resulted in the death of a worker on Wednesday, the Detroit Free Press has learned.

"A trade partner’s worker on our Dearborn job site was involved in a fatal accident. Our entire team is grieving this loss, and our hearts and prayers are with the individual’s loved ones," Neal Morton, senior vice president, safety and risk management, for Barton Malow Holdings, told the Free Press.

"All work on the jobsite has been suspended. When we learned of the incident, our project team immediately secured the site. The incident remains under investigation, and we are cooperating fully with authorities," he said. "We ask everyone to respect the privacy of the family who is mourning the loss of their loved one."

The jobsite address is 20901 Oakwood Blvd., which is south of the Ford Experience Center and north of the Ford Product Development Center. Greenfield Village is just down the road.

At this time, Barton Malow is not releasing any information about the employee, the trade, or company name because the incident is still under investigation, Morton said.

Gabrielle Poshadlo, Ford Land spokeswoman, confirmed the project description at the site.

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Post ID: @wxt+1nfkfRzi

OP, the tax implication part makes no sense.

Ford is big enough, and has its tentacles spread far/wide enough, that it's already set up to do business in most (if not all) states. Although true, this might be a different story for wholly/partially-owned subsidiaries of Ford.

The part about real estate & lack of space plus getting folks to quit probably has truth to it though.

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Post ID: @fjt+1nfkfRzi

https://region1a.uaw.org/uaw-local-1970-ford-salaried-workers/about-us

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Post ID: @qwo+1nfkfRzi

UAW contract site

https://uaw.org/uaw-auto-bargaining/fordcontract/

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Post ID: @usp+1nfkfRzi

Don't what to get laid off? Find a union salary stewart and sign the union card and they can't fire you. You will be under the UAW contract. But you will kiss your annual merit raise good bye. They can lay you off at 80% pay.

There is UAW salary employees. The Body Designers are. And Engineers can join the Union.

I should have joined before I got let go

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Post ID: @udx+1nfkfRzi

@qcr+1nfkfRzi The OP said that with the state and local leaders exerting pressure comment.

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Post ID: @trc+1nfkfRzi

I disagree. The residence of each employee - which state they live in - is very easy to manage for Ford.

I believe that the tax implication that Ford is worried is from the cities who had provided tax breaks to Ford to locate their offices in those cities - the cities made money when the Ford employees were spending money around town. Remote work eliminated that. Now the cities are threatening to pull back the tax breaks.

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Post ID: @qcr+1nfkfRzi

total trash

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Post ID: @iap+1nfkfRzi

Our LL2 lives perm in Texas and we are still hiring people who have never been to Michigan. While I believe you, that doesn't make any sense.

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