Thread regarding IBM layoffs

As Generative AI Reshapes the Workforce, These Companies May Be Most Affected

The most exposed companies are in a range of
industries, suggesting the wide scope of
generative AI’s potential impact. International
Business Machines [IBM -0.15%], Nvidia and
Microsoft [MSFT 0.34%], all deeply involved in
generative-AI technology, are first, fifth and
ninth on the list, respectively.

Those backend clerical jobs that AK has referenced are clearly just the beginning of several types of positions to be eliminated.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/generative-ai-companies-microsoft-ibm-nvidia-benefit-3a1e727b

By: Betsy Morris
July 30, 2023 8:00 am ET

Much of the hoopla surrounding AI-related companies since the release of ChatGPT has focused on firms like chip maker Nvidia [NVDA 0.37%] that make products for the new generative-AI technology.

Now, a new study spotlights a much bigger group of companies that also stand to benefit: those best positioned to use ChatGPT and other types of generative AI to boost their productivity.

The working paper analyzes the workforce makeup at each of 2,500 publicly traded companies to determine how many jobs at each could either be replaced or made more efficient with the help of generative AI. Then it compares those findings to the companies’ stock-market performance following the release of the AI tool last November.

The study found that shares of the companies with the greatest number of jobs that could be affected by generative AI outperformed the shares of the companies least exposed to the technology. The group with the highest exposure posted cumulative stock-market gains of 13% by the end of March, compared with cumulative gains of 2% for the group with the least exposure.

“One of our hypotheses is that this technology can be either complementary to or a substitution for existing labor. Either way it can be positive for firm value,” says Andrea Eisfeldt, a finance professor at the Anderson School of Management at the University of California, Los Angeles, and one of the study’s authors. The study hasn’t been peer reviewed.

In line with prior research, the study found that the occupations most likely to be affected by generative AI are generally white-collar professions involving cognitive tasks—like reasoning and remembering—and analytical tasks, as well as higher-wage occupations.

To calculate the exposure of each company to generative AI based on its workforce, the authors used information from Revelio Labs, a workforce analytics company that collects information from publicly available employee profiles like those on LinkedIn.

Exposure to ChatGPT and other generative AI varied greatly within industries. In general, the authors found that companies that are smaller, less profitable and more R&D intensive tend to have greater exposure to the new technology than others in their industry.

Ranking the biggest companies

The study ranks 100 of the country’s biggest publicly traded companies in order of their employee exposure to generative AI. The greater the exposure, the greater the potential to reshape workforces and reap productivity gains, according to the study.

The most exposed companies are in a range of industries, suggesting the wide scope of generative AI’s potential impact. International Business Machines [IBM -0.15%], Nvidia and Microsoft [MSFT 0.34%], all deeply involved in generative-AI technology, are first, fifth and ninth on the list, respectively. Intuit [INTU 0.00%], the maker of tax-preparation software, is second, fintech company Fiserv [FI -0.29%] is fourth, Verizon [VZ -1.33%] Communications is eighth and 3M is 10th.

A 3M spokesperson said the company is exploring ways in which generative AI can support further innovation. A spokesperson for Intuit said the company is building AI that “works hand-in-hand with people to help them do their jobs better.” A Microsoft spokesperson said that as AI “will change the nature of some jobs and even create new jobs that didn’t exist before, this requires new ways of thinking about skills and training to ensure that workers are prepared for the future.” Fiserv said it is exploring generative AI’s potential but doesn’t expect the impact to become clear until after the technology matures. IBM [IBM -0.15%], Nvidia and Verizon had no comment.

Companies at the lower end of the exposure ranking tend to depend more heavily on customer service or hands-on work, including Starbucks [SBUX -1.61%], McDonald’s [MCD -1.37], Target [TGT -0.15%], Union Pacific [UNP -0.59%] and United Parcel Service.

A spokesperson for Union Pacific said the company “recognizes the rapid advancements in artificial intelligence and its potential impact on various industries, including ours” and is continuously evaluating emerging technologies to enhance operations and improve efficiency. Starbucks and UPS had no comment on the study, and Target and McDonald’s didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Talking about it

The authors also checked their assessment of company exposure by correlating it with how frequently the new technology was mentioned in Twitter threads and earnings calls with investors. They found that the companies that most frequently mentioned generative AI in their earnings calls tended to be those whose workforces were most exposed according to the authors’ research.

“I thought the results of this paper were exciting and interesting,” says Daniel Rock, an assistant professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School who studies the economic effects of artificial intelligence. “I liked that it looked at how firms are communicating. CEOs across the board are asking: ‘What should we be doing about this generative-AI phenomenon?’ ” he says. “I would imagine mentioning generative AI in earnings calls is correlated with how they’re thinking about their workforces.”

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New collar is just another cynical attempt to pay less for labor. The people screaming the loudest that you don't need a college education are making sure their kids get one: it is "other people's kids" who don't need one.

Yes lots of people are being let go because of the promise that AI brings in reducing the workforce - though few are being let go because of the reality that AI is actually capable of doing the work. Almost all of these layoffs are preemptive. It is another attempt to lower salaries and to make employees feel grateful they have any kind of job at all.

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Post ID: @1jbhg+1nYhBGpM

This article from mid July seems to confirm this

https://www.thetechedvocate.org/ibm-cuts-thousands-of-employees-in-latest-tech-layoffs/

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Post ID: @9dqd+1nYhBGpM

AI will decimate IT jobs in India. US spent the last 20 years moving jobs there with the logic that even if an India dev is 1/3 as good as a US one he is 1/4 the cost so net win. ChatGPT is 99% as good as average Indian dev and 1/100th the cost. Going to be mass unemployment there soon.

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Post ID: @5ffy+1nYhBGpM

AK should use AI to reduce the jobs in India, that should be his main target. There are over 2000 jobs opened there, how many could AI take over?

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Post ID: @2fua+1nYhBGpM

Band 10 is sh-t... don't go there unless you are planning to exit soon.

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Post ID: @2vzf+1nYhBGpM

Great. You "made it in less than 20 years!" Can you name three things that you did in Valhalla that genuinely (and I mean for real) benefitted the people you left behind? Or are you now just telling them that they should join the watsonx challenge if they want a future?

Ya.... That's what I thought.

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Post ID: @2ylp+1nYhBGpM

You might have almost ki-led yourself over 20 years to get to B10. But most of us have seen a lot of snivelling politicians get there often in less time.

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Post ID: @1rra+1nYhBGpM

Not loving the B10-envy here. I practically ki-led myself over nearly 20 years to qualify and then get through the STSM technical process to get to Band 10. It was excruciating and a lot of work. I have always helped others in my team along the way. I have met a few great DEs and Design Principles too, who who went up the technical ranks through personal self sacrifice. My process was like getting a PhD - arduous and difficult.

But I know so many VPs - Band Cs - that got to where they are in management tracks by just being hired. Or spent 2 years as a Director and then voila are made a Band C - VP -- just by showing up. (Heck most IBM Fellows - the most prestigious tech roles at IBM - are just Band Ds). Management track people get these high-level positions just by schmoozing. Have MBA, will make you an exec. Worse, they know nothing at all about what any of us do and fail to value our work products, thinking anybody can do it.

I was told my org will not allow us to have any more DEs. No room at the top even though there are literally no one in any of these roles in some orgs (only met one Distinguished Designer in another org and he was laid off; my org has none.). But yet management track VPs are everywhere, several levels deep.

Come on guys, not all B10 are created equal.

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Post ID: @1kuk+1nYhBGpM

It’s far more basic than blaming AI as to IBM’s issues. IBM is far too over managed (top heavy) and rewards far too much underperformance (non-productive employees). Cut management and non-productive positions by 40-50% and most of IBM’s critical problems will disappear. Streamlining starts at the top and works its way down the management chain. IBM has historically started at the bottom (blaming productivity and product issues) for managements poor executive decisions. Hey AK here’s an AI model for you to try. Thin the executive and non-productive overhead. You could start with a target of 1 out of 3 band 10’s and above get cut. After 90 days re-evaluate and take a second swing. Meta did exactly that, targeting their non-productive, and non-strategic executives and spreadsheet jockeys, and their stock doubled. Yep they called it the year of efficiency, and they got there in less than 6 months. I guess their AI model is better focused than yours IBM.

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Post ID: @1usg+1nYhBGpM

"In line with prior research, the study found that the occupations most likely to be affected by generative AI are generally white-collar professions involving cognitive tasks—like reasoning and remembering—and analytical tasks, as well as higher-wage occupations."

This is not the IBM way people. Who ever advanced even to B10 but certainly beyond that with reasoning and remembering (except remembering enemies) and being seriously analytical? Being able to perform cognitive tasks will get you only so far.

When you get an AI that specializes in bullying, stealing other people's intellectual creativity and throwing people under buses for the sake of the next promotion package, I think the IBM business as usual model is at risk. But until that day, AI won't really change the way things are done.

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