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Lightning major price drop, destined for rental car fleets.

Customers have panned the high cost Lightning. Loss of $58k per vehicle just got way bigger.

After debuting with a surprisingly low sub-$40k price tag (at least for the work-focused Pro model), the Ford F-150 Lightning has been treated to a host of price increases in the months since, which made the EV pickup significantly more expensive. However, with The Blue Oval ramping up production and some order holders bailing due to these price jumps, we recently saw the Ford F-150 Lightning get a rare factory incentive. Now, the entire F-150 Lightning lineup has received a pretty deep price cut, too.

2023 Ford F-150 Lightning Price Changes
2023 Ford F-150 Lightning Price – July17th, 2023 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning Price – July16th, 2023 + / – July 16th Price
Pro $49,995 $59,974 $-9979
XLT $54,995 $64,474 $-9479
XLT High $59,995 $68,474 $-8479
XLT High Extended Range $69,995 $78,874 $-8879
Lariat $69,995 $76,974 $-6979
Lariat Extended Range $77,495 $85,974 $-8479
Platinum $91,995 $98,074 $-6079

The Ford F-150 Lightning Pro receives the biggest price decrease of $9,979, which drops its starting MSRP all the way back down to $49,995, minus destination and delivery fees of $1,995. The XLT with equipment group 311A follows suit with a a $9,479 price cut, while the range-topping Platinum has been treated to the smallest decrease of $6,079. Regardless, all other F-150 Lightning models are at least $8,000 cheaper moving forward, which is a rather large figure. Ford attributes these sharp cuts to a number of factors – increasing capacity at the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center, scaling production and cost, and improved battery raw material costs.

On top of these price cuts, Ford is also offering a $1,000 bonus for retail customers who build their own XLT, Lariat, or Platinum model through their dealer or via Ford.com from July 6th to July 31st as part of the automaker’s national summer sales event, while Ford Credit is also offering eligible buyers interest rates as low as 1.9 percent for 36 months – plus, some customers can also take advantage of the $7,500 federal tax credit, to boot.

“Shortly after launching the F-150 Lightning, rapidly rising material costs, supply constraints, and other factors drove up the cost of the EV truck for Ford and our customers,” said Marin Gjaja, chief customer officer, Ford Model e. “We’ve continued to work in the background to improve accessibility and affordability to help to lower prices for our customers and shorten the wait times for their new F-150 Lightning.”

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Post ID: @OP+1nEYavzx

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Nostalgia? Who really cares what makes the wheel go round. Most people just want something economical and reliable and easy to keep on the road. EVs are just not those things. They might great delivery vans, or scooters or bicycles, but those a niche applications.

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Post ID: @1idw+1nEYavzx

Even the worst TV stock picker and Ford Farley lover, Jim Cramer, sours on Lightning:

Jim Cramer reversed his stance following Ford Motor Co.‘s (NYSE:F) 17% price reduction for its F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck.

What Happened: Ford’s decision to cut prices can be attributed, at least in part, to the diminishing novelty of electric vehicles among many Americans, Cramer reportedly said.

Cramer, the host of CNBC’s Mad Money, also raised concerns about the potential for a cost-cutting spiral.

“One thing we do know after today is the bloom may be off the electric vehicle rose,” he remarked.

This had to happen eventually when there is mass adoption, Cramer said, adding “it just happened a little earlier than I expected.”

Cramer observed that EVs were “losing their excitement factor” for some potential buyers who have developed a sense of nostalgia for their “old-fashioned gas-powered” cars.

The stock picker added that prospective buyers are also exploring other options from EV makers such as Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA), Rivian Automotive, Inc. (NASDAQ:RIVN), and General Motors Corp. (NYSE:GM).

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Post ID: @1sod+1nEYavzx

"Ford attributes these sharp cuts to a number of factors – increasing capacity at the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center, scaling production and cost, and improved battery raw material costs."

I call it BS. I'd say those price drops are paid with the "savings" of all the people laid off.

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Post ID: @1axn+1nEYavzx

is anyone reallllly suprised by this news???

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Post ID: @1fyg+1nEYavzx

Cyber truck

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Post ID: @1psa+1nEYavzx

Glad I am not model e...there goes your bonus as bev volume metric is below target.

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Post ID: @1ixj+1nEYavzx

200 miles of range, probably 150 in the winter, probably 100-75 if you tow

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Post ID: @1qnc+1nEYavzx

The rental companies aren't going to want EVs. Customers are responsible for filling up the vehicles with gas before they return them so there's no expense to the rental companies.

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Post ID: @1bzp+1nEYavzx

You people are funny. Ford lowers the cost $10K to open up the ability for middle class Americans to buy the best BEV truck available, and you try to spin it as a negative.

I eagerly wait for all of you to eat your words when sales and profits of Lightning surpass your poor estimates.

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Post ID: @1ymo+1nEYavzx

If they can’t keep them from self igniting in the holding lots in Dearborn why would anyone want one.

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Post ID: @hkm+1nEYavzx

They have to move them before lot rot sets in.

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Post ID: @cjs+1nEYavzx

Seriously, do people really want full electric vehicles? I certainly do not!

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Post ID: @kdu+1nEYavzx

"under certain circumstances, you could make more money on flop than on a hit"

  • gene wilder character, The Producers
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Post ID: @xar+1nEYavzx

The shareholders are not to happy

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Post ID: @bbe+1nEYavzx

Most will end up in salvage yards, they’ve been sitting in the hot sun on dealer lots for months, which is not beneficial for battery life.

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Post ID: @maz+1nEYavzx

Pass the cost on to customers…

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Post ID: @bex+1nEYavzx

Very sad. Getting SIRP’d is starting to feel a whole lot better.

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Post ID: @nfv+1nEYavzx

Wow no surprise. The beginning of the end with pricing.

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Post ID: @lxx+1nEYavzx

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