With Covid over, what’s the future of hybrid work? Do you all think they will try to get people in the offices more than what they are now? Also the job market seems to be shifting a bit. What does 2024 hold for us?
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Elon Mush is right!
“ workers need to get off their "moral high horse" with their "work from home bulls---." - Elon Musk
SO a couple issues with the general thought process here. First issue is that the company doesnt have enough space for everyone in hub range to work in office every day. Subleases have been a thing for a while. Mind you the hubs likely wouldnt have enough space even if we had full space available. Bloomington might be fine on this aspect for obvious reasons. They hired hard during covid at all the hubs, theres a good chance weve got more people than our building use to hold, which brings us to issue number two. SF has run through a huge chunk of the available labor pool within these hubs, its getting to the point where its getting harder to find people who havent left or, were not hirable, ect. This happens with large companies with very high turnover which....thats us...
Third issue is the reality of saved costs not paying for massive top tier buildings in boomtowns with heavy congestion and skyrockting rents, specifically near the hubs. I think it will be hard to justify spending what we currently spend if we can do the same job remotely, allowing them to tap into a much larger labor pool. They also could pay less, as bad as that sounds, keeping up with inflation in the hub cities is far outpacing what they want to pay.
I hope the reality is they are stuck with the space and need people in office to justify their locked in leases, and once those leases end they will give the green light to remote only without geographical restrictions. I dont get why they wont relay that to us if its the case. Many people would move away from the hubs if given the option.
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SF has moved aqay from hiring professionals and any recent college grad wont stay long, so you get what you pay for. Mooooorons trying to run a service oriented company like a production company. How msny widgets have you processed today, as if thats a measure of quality service? Ridiculous. I do look forward to AI taking over soon.
SF employee.
“been there 3 times in the last 17 months on SF business”
What kind of business would that be? This is not a multi-national company, so hopefully it has anything to do with anything more than tech or simple data entry behind the scenes. I literally pray you’re not some new leechy consultancy that tends to slither in occasionally and give all sorts of bad ideas out into execution that fu-k this place up into a nightmare. You of course don’t give AF about SF or anywhere else “you help”. You just bounce after all your checks are cashed.
and I’ve seen how they drive in India, their roads, their traffic controls too…it’s not good. They’re crazy dangerous drivers and literally drive while honking their horns 6 times a minute.
I have seen the roads and somewhat the driving patterns in India. I have been there 3 times in the last 17 months on SF business.
Offshoring an entire claims operation is the d-mbest thing any insurance company could do. SF customers would never accept that. Body shops would be even harder to work with. Have you seen the roads and how people drive in India and certain parts of Asia? It makes as much sense as it would for Americans handling claims for India.
Good luck. Allstate is off shoring it’s entire claim force and GEICO is laying off personnel. Maybe Germania or local Farm Bureau is hiring?
Well if the force people who relocated to hubs prior to COVID back into office full time, myself and a LOT of experienced handlers will get jobs at our competitors who will have remote only positions.
It will be very interesting to see executives all of a sudden be fine with overhead costs that dont need to exist.
We don’t want your corporate brainwashing in our small communities.
I am legit worried that with this news, all of a sudden our penny pinching executives might be willing to spend overhead if it results in something they know their workers dont want.
Im still praying they cut the leash on the offices, and allow us the freedom to not live within driving distance to some hub plopped in a high congestion over priced area in a bo-m town with exploding rents ect. Sadly I dont think even with drastic savings will be enough to willfully lower their employees misery index.
Bean counters spending more than needed? Nope. Hybrid and remote will stay.
How are you all saying they can churn and burn when they are literally out of people to hire and those they do hire don’t know how to do anything other than flip a burger? Xi was forced out because he found the churn and burn theory does not carry over to insurance.
I am not an LOC employee. But last November I attended a “first line leader” meeting and am just repeating what a senior executive said when asked the LOC question. No skin in the game for me personally. You have made a wrong assumption or two…
@gbe Did they care when they hired those for less in the hubs? What makes you think you are not replaceable? What comes around goes around.
Hopefully going to the grocery stores or doing anything during the weekday is a pain between the retired and State Farm work from homers. It starts to make sense why a company loses 13b a year when it appears nobody has to work.
While they can hire more for less and turn them over really quick what executive has come to realize is the LOC employees are the most knowledgeable, productive with no overhead expense and least likely to leave. As number crunchers they see there is a stark difference between hub and LOC. While Hub employees come and go LOC is here to stay.
LOC remote workers will face another round of go to hub or leave I suspect. They can hire more for less. More of the same.
If you're in a hub live-work-play 15-minute city you will go to the office and own nothing, and be happy :)
Well if I know anything it will be whatever benefits SF the most as opposed to being employee centric. It wasn’t surprising to hear they completely intended to lay off all LOC employees until the market shifted dramatically.