There’s a lot of talk about PIPs and I was just wondering if anyone in Europe has successfully perused a claim against IBM in their labour court or similar?
I’d be surprised if not becuase there seems to be a lot of PIPs in Europe despite it being illegal.
@ap have you ever been to court? Even if you win, the time and stress makes it not worth it.
I am not disputing that there might be a sense of vindication but you will create life long enemies.
Get your money and hold this fraudulent system accountable. Win-win
Yes, I know two guys won in labour court against IBM in Europe. Usually, IBM try to avoid going to labour court at all costs but if you finally decide to resign to their offers and you have enough proofs that you did your work quite well you'll earn morn at the end of the legal process than with the initial IBM's offer.
Well not pursued but had to be interviewed as a witness. I will say not this company to avoid problems.
It was devastating to everyone involved.
Coworkers having to rat on people they worked with knowing very well we could be in the same situation.
Keep this stashed at the back of your mind: a company (any company) would pay ten times more to lawyers than give you the cash because that would set a terrible precedent.
My team was sc--wed. Everyone is gone. The guy is out of his dollars and no one in the group talks to each other anymore.
I am the elder one so people will remember long after I am gone. I KNOW one day he will get the transcript of the interviews.
People talk. Word gets around. If you are old go for it. If you want to work again, think hard my child.
Remember what witnesses say ain’t necessarily what lawyers will say the witness said.
Google it or ask ChatGPT there have been several
IBM is run by neoliberals, as well as most of Europe. The same cabal runs governments and businesses.