Thread regarding SAS Institute layoffs

This company will continue to lose good people

It seems like more and more people keep leaving SAS on their own because they’re fed up with how we operate. At some point the executive leadership needs to ask why and really do something about it.

We keep promoting the same types of people into leadership and letting managers sit in the same roles forever. Then everyone acts surprised when smart, talented people get tired of waiting around for a real opportunity and leave.

There’s only so many times you can tell someone they’re doing great work, they’re a “high performer,” or they’re valued while passing them over for growth opportunities. Eventually people figure out the career path here is basically a dead end unless you fit whatever mold leadership is looking for.

The really talented people have options. They’re not going to wait 5-10 years hoping somebody above them finally moves on or decides they’re worthy of a shot. The blind spots in this place are real.

SAS is going to keep losing good people until we figure that out.


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What do Jerry Jones & the Cowboys have in common with SAS? Both CEOs are surrounded by people that only want to incur favor with the CEO. The mission of running a top tier team\company is not what drives Jone's/Goodnight's inner circle. Their focus is on survival and being a liked pet. I can't respect those people, but not hard to understand. Goodnight does not like to be told anything contrary to his view. Goodnight made the decision to charge College's for SAS licenses. Goodnight mandated that Viya be profitable from day one. Goodnight dismissed senior leadership that was not in sync with his view. That's a perk of owning the company, but the downside is you end up with the leadership we have today. A bunch of vultures fighting over what remains of SAS. IPO? What a joke. 2% growth, could you imagine Cramer losing his mind over a company trying to go public with 2% growth. That 2% growth is in dollars, actual SAS usage measured by cores\compute would be down considerable (if it could be measured across all customers). I love SAS, the company, the people, the language and like a lot of people I'm angry at Goodnight for allowing this to happen. It's his right, but we did not have to be put a track to obscurity.

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Post ID: @wf+1m35vyv2f

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said... except that it needed to be heeded 10-15 years ago (and some would argue longer ago than that). It's unfortunately too late now for it to matter one way or the other ;-(

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Post ID: @qa+1m35vyv2f

It won't lose any secret love children.

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Post ID: @p3+1m35vyv2f

@j0 like around the back of C? Not in his parking space?

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Post ID: @jg+1m35vyv2f

It's sad to see he has started parking in the back of C to be closer to the elevators

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Post ID: @j0+1m35vyv2f

@e4 Dr. G showed up in person at the retiree event on July 20, FWIW.

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Post ID: @hb+1m35vyv2f

I saw him last week in the cafeteria.

That time is coming sooner than later.

I predict there will be an exodus of longtime employees who stayed around in service of him and out of loyalty to what he has built. There will be others who will leave because of uncertainty, lack of direction/faith in leadership, and very little insight into what will be the next steps for the company. Investors will swoop in, buy us out and start breaking the company into smaller, sellable pieces.

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Post ID: @f1+1m35vyv2f

Are we sure he hasn't? Haven't seen him in a live presentation in a looooong time

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Post ID: @e4+1m35vyv2f

If you’re waiting for some introspection from upper leadership at SAS, get comfortable. It’s going to be a long, LONG wait.

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Post ID: @d1+1m35vyv2f

Everyone is replaceable...and most are replaceable for less money. I agree, that is the plan, working as intended.

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Post ID: @cp+1m35vyv2f

Sadly, this isn't a bug; it's a feature.

I left SAS after 20+ years. I would gladly have stayed for a modest raise. But nothing was offered. Other companies were paying more, so I left.

After two decades of service, SAS made no attempt to keep me. But I wasn't alone. Other employees, more qualified than myself, were treated the same way.

I was replaced by a person only a few years out of school -- whose strongest qualification was their low cost.

It took me some time to realize: that's the plan.

SAS must cut costs to stay profitable. When experienced talent leaves, replaced by cheaper people, this isn't a systemic failure. It is the system working as intended.

This won't change. If you want a different plan, you must work for a different company.

SAS won't mind if you leave, because -- that's the plan.

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Post ID: @c9+1m35vyv2f

Curios what you think will happen when Dr. G passes......

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