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How Big Companies Choose Who Is Laid Off

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-big-companies-choose-who-is-laid-off-8e5e843

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How Big Companies Choose Who Is Laid Off
Process can involve weeks of debate as employee performance, skill sets are reviewed

Soon after a company decides to cut its head count, the debate begins: Who should go?

In the current economic environment, a final decision can take weeks, according to executives and corporate advisers. Workers remain in short supply, raising the stakes of determining who is expendable and who is worth keeping. With layoffs that target corporate staff, department heads often take the lead and human resources troubleshoots their lists, which can lead to intense debate and multiple rewrites.

“There is no good way to do this,” said Gregory DeLapp, a human-resources executive who spent much of his career at the steel and materials manufacturer Carpenter Technology Corp. CRS 2.59%increase; green up pointing triangle in Pennsylvania, where he helped conduct layoffs. “Ultimately, someone’s unfairly treated in the end.”

The process is playing out across the corporate sphere. In recent weeks, companies as varied as Salesforce Inc., CRM 2.26%increase; green up pointing triangle Hasbro Inc., HAS 3.01%increase; green up pointing triangle Dow Inc. DOW 1.30%increase; green up pointing triangle and others have announced job cuts. Amazon.com Inc. AMZN 3.10%increase; green up pointing triangle last Monday said it was eliminating 9,000 more jobs, following previously announced layoffs.

Seniority once guided layoffs at many U.S. businesses, with companies eliminating junior employees first. Today it is more common for companies to conduct layoffs based on skills rather than tenure, according to human-resources executives. An employee’s recent performance will likely factor heavily into any decision. Employees with high salaries also might face greater attention, though advisers said those workers might be among a company’s top performers.

At many companies, top leaders, including the chief executive officer and chief financial officer, often set high-level criteria for a layoff, mandating that a company cut a certain percentage of its workforce, for example, or reach a specified cost savings. Some confine layoffs to specific areas. Boeing Co. BA 1.47%increase; green up pointing triangle earlier this year said it planned to cut 2,000 jobs primarily in finance and human resources, while hiring in engineering. Amazon said its latest cuts would mostly be concentrated in its cloud-computing, advertising and Twitch streaming businesses.

The task of deciding who should be eliminated often falls to divisional leaders and department heads, according to executives. The business-software company Okta Inc. in February said it would cut 300 employees, or 5% of staff, after the company said it overhired during the pandemic. Many departments across the company were given specific financial cost-cutting targets to meet, said CEO Todd McKinnon, and did so in different ways.

Innovation and product-development teams gave priority to keeping people who were working on projects and goals that seemed achievable in a three-year timeline versus a five-year one, he said. Okta eliminated some salespeople focused on small and medium-size businesses in North America.

Executives asked: “Where is the business? Where do we need investments?” Mr. McKinnon said, adding that the layoffs coincided with Okta’s annual planning process, which helped in determining which initiatives deserved attention and which could be jettisoned. “It was a difficult thing to go through, and difficult decisions.”

Many think it is the job of human-resources staffers to select the individual employees to terminate, though it is often far more likely that the business leaders in each area of a company suggest names of employees to target, said Kathy Zwickert, a former chief people officer at NetSuite and most recently a director at the cloud-based software provider Avalara.

“HR is not in control over who’s coming and going,” said Ms. Zwickert.

She said she has seen situations in which department leaders are told to come up with a proposed list of individuals to lay off based on a set criteria. That could include anyone who got a low rating in a recent performance review, or who joined the company in the past six months. Managers will then compile a list of employees to let go, often giving the layoff document a code name such as “Project Falcon,” so the file’s purpose is unclear if it is accidentally discovered by another employee, she said.

In addition to reviewing an employee’s performance history, many companies consider workers’ potential to adapt and take on new jobs in the future. “It’s really down to a one-on-one assessment of performance in determining who you’re going to keep,” said Paul J. Sarvadi, CEO of Insperity Inc., a human-resources services and outsourcing company.

Once individual employees are identified, human-resources staffers then work to scrub the list, looking to see if a company is, for example, disproportionately laying off people over the age of 40, or unfairly targeting minorities, veterans or other groups, Ms. Zwickert said. Any such discrimination could open an employer to a lawsuit. Companies at times also rely on outside help in that process, buying tools or engaging lawyers to sift through a layoff list to identify possible red flags.

Sarah Rodehorst, CEO of Onwards HR, whose software performs a statistical analysis during terminations to see if certain groups are adversely affected, said such reviews can uncover other problems. On a list of layoff candidates, a company might find it is about to fire inadvertently an employee who previously opened a complaint against a manager—a move that could be seen as retaliation, she said. “It’s so important to get this right,” she added.

Some companies develop a draft of a layoff list in as short as a week, though many take a month to eight weeks to identify employees and develop a comprehensive plan for letting them go, said George Penn, managing vice president in the HR practice of Gartner Inc., where he has advised companies on layoffs and other issues.

Debates are frequent. Some managers might attempt to jockey for certain employees to remain, and disputes can emerge between leaders about the philosophy of a layoff—say, whether to cut a layer of middle management, or to fire more executives over front-line employees, Mr. Penn said.

Even when companies decide to shut down entire business units, executives might make decisions to keep some high-achieving employees and move them elsewhere, said Anna A. Tavis, a former global director of talent at the insurer American International Group Inc., who now teaches and researches human-capital management issues at New York University’s School of Professional Studies.

“There’s a lot of subjectivity involved, even with all the rules in place,” she said.

Write to Chip Cutter at chip.cutter@wsj.com

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What "gets" me is the exec bonuses paid out after such an action and the pittance provided ro workers.

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dysfunctional + toxic = dysfoxic. Maybe toxfunctional...

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@2mol+1lS2bQqs
Very insightful comment. Thank you!
I still very vividly remember running into my boss when walking in the building on the morning where we got the "all clear". He was uncharacteristically happy and full of positive energy. He told me that he sincerely had no idea if anyone would be let go. My impression was that he probably did have to submit some kind of list but didn't know who if anyone on that list would actually be let go. It was pretty apparent that he didn't want to see anyone go. But who knows, it could be that there was no list and this is all out of the 8th level's hands. Either way, not seeing anyone in our group let go was a relief to us all. Very stressful time!

Despite all the negativity from sour-grapes present/past employees and state-sponsored trolls, let's all pray that we all make it through the next couple years without any of these layoffs! No one should be rooting for destroyed families and lives. We all know that when these layoffs happen, the competitors are going through the same thing and that the jobs become very scarce, very quickly.

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I don't know about this year but in 2019 when walked out/laid off, I presumed the person who was walking me out was Security guard or HR. Began a convo and the Person told me that she was EGM of a group and how certain 8 level managers were volunteered to do walk people out. She also added how her group lost 5 people w/o her say. He-l, I know several EGMs let go at the time too.

I don't doubt the wall street journal article content but way GM chose was clearly done by 3rd party.

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Post ID: @2mol+1lS2bQqs

So if you have to lay off any member of a protected class, you also have to add members who aren't in the group to hide it.

And not just for age.

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If a big company is laying off thousands or tens of thousands people, I don't know how each individual person could get due consideration and a debate over their fate.

I think they just let each person's manager review them and the SLT decides to let the bottom X percent low performers in the company go.

Effectively your manager is deciding if you should get laid off.

So if you get laid off, the executive team and mary didn't decide that you personally should go. They don't even know your name.

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Post ID: @1vus+1lS2bQqs

I was one of laidoff in 2019. All the laidoff are given list of everyone laidoff under their executive director [this is federal employment law]

One Engineering group I remember had one 65 years old dude. They also laid off six 24 to 27 years old folks. There's no way all of those young employees could've been "underperforming employees" or else GM has much further internal issued. It was to average out the age group to be within 40 years old

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"Some companies develop a draft of a layoff list in as short as a week, though many take a month to eight weeks to identify employees and develop a comprehensive plan for letting them go"
Assume that the list was already made!

"Some managers might attempt to jockey for certain employees to remain"
This speaks to managers bullying certain people to take the VSP. They couldn't wait to get rid of these people and they don't want their good people taking the hit during a layoff.

"Once individual employees are identified, human-resources staffers then work to scrub the list, looking to see if a company is, for example, disproportionately laying off people over the age of 40, or unfairly targeting minorities, veterans or other groups, Ms. Zwickert said."
Because of lawsuits, no one is safe. They have to get rid of good people in critical roles to avoid laying off too many people from the list of protected groups.

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