With you take the voluntary separation package?
Does it make sense for you?
Do you think the involuntary separations will happen soon after the 24th and that they might already know who they are axing?
Do you think less money is on the table for the involuntary separations?
Is two weeks not enough time to decide, make plans and line up another job?
How many do you think will actually take this VSP?
How many will be laid off?
Is GM chopping off it's nose to spite it's face? Will these cuts backfire?
Which departments do you think will get the bigger cuts?
Why is GM doing this when they have record profits?
What do they know?
What aren't they telling us?
Do you think the culture is toxic?
Are you trapped because you fear that work outside GM will pay less and might be more stressful with higher volume?
Do you see a change in management behavior already?
Are you already being tasked with much more work than usual?
Have you heard any implicit threats about not meeting new criteria?
Do you trust GM and is GM really a workplace of choice?
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I think high-up and their friends knew for a while before it happened. Those people knew well before the 2019 layoff. They may not have a formal list of who they are getting rid of but they surely have positions and people in mind.
I don't agree with managers knew 15 months prior who axing.
Healthcare cost is not avail.
Our group [in MPG] took massive hit (usually safe group in prior layoffs such as 2009). Many of our cream of crop workers let go.
I know people in other groups who had merely started their current position only a year into it and let go as well. No way management would hire them 12-15 months prior only to let them go that fast
I was given an offer last year. Then I had another offer from a stable Tier 1 supplier. I predicted this downturn and thought about "what if" I will get affected by mass layoffs. Now my decision turned up to be the best decision. Anyways, from 0-3 years we are the first lambs to be cut and can be sacrificed as a collateral damage while laying off the older people to avoid age discrimination suits.
This supplier may also be affected by a financial downturn but I feel more stable here for now.
I had an interview with GM last year, the company is a joke.
I did not take the offer at the time also I sold all my GM stock.
Best interview ever.
Their interview was disrespectful.
I am taking it and I already have another job lined up. This is awesome.
Read the whole article. The article is about ConnectedCare, but it states later in the article that GM is self-insured. https://www.freep.com/story/money/2018/08/06/gm-direct-employer-health-insurance-2019/913210002/
You might think before you spout off calling people id--ts. GM uses BCBS to administer the plan and manage the paperwork. GM is in the background paying our health care bills. That is how self-insured plans work. They have been used by GM, Ford, Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis for several years.
"Since GM is self insured and doesn't pay premiums to an outside health insurance company"
Where in the heck are you getting this information from?
General Motors isn't a healthy insurance provider to itself!!?!
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan is the carrier!
...wow incredible stuff here
Are we dealing with id--ts or trolls?
Since GM is self insured and doesn't pay premiums to an outside health insurance company, how could they NOT know whose medical bills they're sending checks to providers for?
what about the 500 employees been cut in end of feb? will they get the package considering the VSP been announced after a week? it is not fair for these 500 people if they leave them out
Employers do not know healthcare cost of individual employees. They may have data without specific identifiers in generic form.
Age, salary, performance is available data to management for decision making. Healthcare cost is not as directly available as many people think.
- > they might already know who they are axing?
Managers were aware of the 2019 purge approx 15 months before it occurred. The first list was supposedly drawn up by the famous consulting firm McKinsey who drew the initial list based on GM criteria such as age/salary/projected health care costs. And health care costs were the main driver of the purge. Your management is probably not unaware who is on the lists, and may be deeply involved in refining their assigned lists.
This purge is probably more about salary and a move back to outsourcing.