Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

New Boss for Security Business G.

https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/cisco-hires-ex-vmware-exec-as-security-chief/2023/01/

Why we keep adding executives, last year we hired SS to lead SBG. Now we have created a “new role” for SS. Would we do this to our best engineers? We have laid off best talent last few years without any mercy. Hardly anyone cared to retain them, some of them are 12 to 15 years of experiences which we cannot replace. These executives will easily cost fortune for Cisco. We have money to hire executives but no budget to hire engineers ..what a shame. With one executive's paycheck, we may hire few engineers in SBG. We really need engineers not executives. Most of the product managers in SBG are new hires, 2 to 3 years of experience with zero knowledge on our products. With old engineers it took 15 mins chat to solve a problem now with new engineers / PMs taking months.

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@3emu+1kzVNFfY they tried to fire VW but he has dirt on someone so was put in a “strategy” role with no reports where he can keep getting a paycheck but not continue to mess things up.

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Post ID: @3pwd+1kzVNFfY

Curios Ex-Cisco guy here.. What happened to VW in the Security Sales business? He seemingly has the same title as SS on LinkedIn.

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Post ID: @3emu+1kzVNFfY

@2yfn+1kzVNFfY you’re right. It’d take a whole sale ground up rewrite. But the revenue potential is tiny anyway. The real purpose of the security portfolio is so we can tell investors we are in the security market.

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Post ID: @3jwz+1kzVNFfY

Might be better to sell off security business, as Cisco will never catch-up to industry leaders

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Post ID: @2yfn+1kzVNFfY

Everyone knows that our security products are in bad condition. SBG leaders haven't invested in developing next gen products at all for last few years. Just fixing bugs and adding few features on a legacy architecture hardware. This is not a secret anymore. customers and stockholders know this very well. We don't need to hire an execute for this. We need someone visionary who can build next gen products and not to fix bugs. Most of the executives are surviving with legacy knowledge, which may help to release next version of firewall, similar to 31xx but not next gen. we need someone who can turn candles to electric bulb...(not someone who can make different type of candles)

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@2sgj+1kzVNFfY I mean, he wasn’t wrong. We need someone that realizes our security profile is a pile and needs a total makeover.

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Post ID: @2ibt+1kzVNFfY

What a joke, this guy left Cisco years ago. Was recently leading the VMware Network and Security business globally. He $h!* all over Cisco and said how it was the past. NSX, Carbon Black, NDR, etc. are the future and Cisco was garbage. Cisco didn't have the right story. Now he's going to lead that business? He has sat with every one of VMware's largest customers telling them Cisco is $h!* for the last 6 years!

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Post ID: @2sgj+1kzVNFfY

SS is second only to MM as the least motivating, dullest speaker in the exec suite. I keep expecting her to get comfortable in her role, but hasn't happened. Snooze fest.

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Post ID: @1zqj+1kzVNFfY

That's incredible. Gillis is very clueless. He let Palo Alto happen right under his nose and did zilch about it. He likely got laid off from VMware. The guy is so out of his league.

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Post ID: @1dde+1kzVNFfY

Unbelievable, bringing back same exec pen pusher who mismanaged Csco ASA years ago, ki---d Csco ACI with his VMW stint.. bringing back in to ki-l more products and employee morale. His salary can keep at least 10 engrs doing real work, innovations frm monthly LRs

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Post ID: @1nlr+1kzVNFfY

JP is responsible for the demise of Webex and made a huge mistake in hiring SS. He realizes that now and that is why TG has been hired and they made up a new executive role for SS. She was a disaster at McAfee and no one here at Cisco wants to put her in front of a customer.

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Post ID: @1ryk+1kzVNFfY

"Outside of a small fraction of people in design, everyone at HQ is easily replaceable, up to and including the entire C-suite."

Someone gets it. Outsource jobs to countries without labor laws, and replace full-time employees in America with contractors.

Cisco is looking for leaders good at quietly cutting labor costs in America.

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Post ID: @1sta+1kzVNFfY

rehired same exec who ran Csco firewall products aground 10+ years ago that ASA never recovered, got embarrassed by Palo Alto, Imperva, Fortinet. So sad to once proud company.

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Post ID: @tki+1kzVNFfY

Cisco has a security business?

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Post ID: @gpc+1kzVNFfY

The offshoring is why software quality and feature innovation has gone to cr-p.

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Post ID: @gva+1kzVNFfY

Cisco employeed 39k in the US and 44k in the rest of the world last year. Except for people directly involved in sales, implementation, and onsite, Cisco could entirely discard its onshore engineering and still manage going forward. It's built up a huge presence in every competency all over the Americas and the rest of the world. Manufacturing? How much of it says made in the USA? Outside of a small fraction of people in design, everyone at HQ is easily replaceable, up to and including the entire C-suite.

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