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Where is the innovation?

JC and MPLS, with their spin-in strategy, brought decades of revenue and generations of products into Cisco. Is there a modern Cisco equivalent? Where is the innovation coming from?

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"Spin-ins should have been illegal."

Says the guy who never was part of any of Cisco's spin-ins. That's just too bad.

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Post ID: @2rcy+1kvNszEV

I worked with JD back before he went to Juniper. There was something very off about him.....slimy is the best word. I guess that's what you have to be as an Exec at Cisco, Juniper, etc.

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Post ID: @1vla+1kvNszEV

JD is head of Cisco Networking. A guy who had to leave CSCO to get a promotion and jumped back for another. He’s had two since returning. Pretty woke as well.

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Post ID: @ehg+1kvNszEV

You got something against people working hard and getting rich? As long as customers are served, what do you care? Do you think it was easy? Do you think you were owed for something you didn't have a hand in?

The not secret part is that innovating within a company while supporting existing products and avoiding stepping on other people's toes (product overlap), all with a team of hangers-on who just want to do enough to get their 401k match, is unlikely to be successful.

Just how did those "internal startup" projects turn out? Go look them up. I'll wait.

If you don't think JC+MPLS were successful then you need to talk less and think more.

Where is the innovation today? Do you see it on a 12 month roadmap? On a 24 month? I'm not looking for details, just a "yes, it's coming" or "no, i don't see it"

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Post ID: @ldj+1kvNszEV

JC+MPLS were prolific.......in making their friends/family rich. I believe that is what the poster intended to communicate. Plus, yes......Cisco overpaid. A "spin in" should be cheap, since they are a sneaky handshake part of the company. Even the employees were Cisco employees.
Pensando/1.9b.......again, overvalued and overpaid.

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Post ID: @dbw+1kvNszEV

Cisco overspent for spin-ins? Can you back that up with numbers: acquisition price vs. product line revenue. Seems to me like they were a steal. Even Pensando was bought by AMD for $1.9Bn, and we'll see where that goes in the future.

JC+MPLS were prolific.

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Post ID: @fob+1kvNszEV

MPLS.....hahaha.....that was a good laugh. Cisco got a few good products, but WAY overspent for the companies/tech, and yet Cisco kept doing these "spin-ins" for years. It infuriated me because "spin-ins" are just a friends and family money grab setup. Spin-ins should have been illegal.

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Post ID: @yyf+1kvNszEV

Until there is a new CEO there will be no innovation at Cisco

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Post ID: @opd+1kvNszEV

The innovation today is in reducing labor costs. Replace full-time employees with temp workers while distracting people with social justice initiatives. It works well $$$

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Post ID: @ejl+1kvNszEV

Who is JD?

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Post ID: @lue+1kvNszEV

MPLS did a lot of great things, but it didn't come without issues either and like all great things it usually ends...take a look at Pensando, it really hasn't taken off. Not saying Cisco is better now because there has not been any innovation in many years so it's clear we have to do something

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Post ID: @klz+1kvNszEV

The innovation today is diversity and inclusion.

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Post ID: @irr+1kvNszEV

Hilarious.

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Post ID: @hxc+1kvNszEV

What JD is trying to do is not innovation. It's cost rationalization. Cisco has too many OS: XR, XE, ACI, NxOS and more. It will take years of pain to bring everything under one OS to rule them all. Meanwhile, no innovation.

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Post ID: @lyt+1kvNszEV

JD with his merge strategy will bring the next wave of innovation. He merged several business units are Juniper just cut headcount innovatively and will repeat the same at Cisco.

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