Best employees left way before mass volunteer leaves. Why do always the best ones leave the first?
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OP- Sorry but this is such a useless question. I think you’ve answered yourself by asking it. And guessing you still work there. :/
When is the next VLP coming? Do you know it?
Is this even a question? I really don't understand what you want to hear by asking it. It's like dating, the more options you have, the harder it is for a company to keep you if it doesn't provide what you want/need. Another company offering better conditions can easily attract those employees away.
OP, best employees have leverage and high market value. They know they can create value anywhere they go. Even under these market conditions they secured jobs, this already proves them being the best. If you are highly employable, you don’t see the need to wait or convince leadership to see your value. VLP percentage depends on how much leadership will agree, you can be entitled to a certain amount but it doesn’t mean you will get this amount. I know people who left accepting way lower amounts. It doesn’t worth draining your energy for something which is not 100% guaranteed.
OP - maybe you were one of the ones leaving before the VLP and want to make yourself feel better. Or you're still there and feel left behind. Either way, it's a fact of working life that people leave companies and new joiners join when you work for a corporation. I don't understand how anything about leaving before the VLP has to do with whether the people who left are the best employees.
@tk they would care about the VLP if it was an extra 100/200K++ in their pocket. Of course if you'd only worked there for a few years, these figures do not apply. This is a very simplistic answer to a simplistic original question. Everyone's life, family circumstances, ambitions and wishes are different. Some people don't feel like they are in a position to leave adidas, they may be a single parent or not in a place to make a sudden move or career leap. That doesn't mean they are also not a "best" or smart employee. The original question and some of these answers show a lack of understanding when it comes to people and their decision-making. Just because someone left before a VLP does not make them a "better" employee, and just because someone left with a VLP does not make them a "worse" employee. And if someone decided to stay at adidas, that does not make them a "worse" or less smart employee. By the way, plenty of people who left with VLP already had a job lined up, and plenty of people did not - it has no bearing on their status as a "best" employees and more to do with 1. what they were individually looking for, 2. market conditions, and 3. timing. Some people really wanted to leave with the VLP and were declined, does that mean they are "worse" employees, as the company wanted to keep them? Some people had no choice but to leave as their positions were eliminated, does that automatically make them "worse" employees? Generalisations like "best" and "smart" are never accurate or useful, because according to which standard are we talking about? Which teams, which levels, which positions, which individuals? It seems like the person who asked the original question wants to make some sense out of a situation. However, it's an impossible question to answer unless you have actual data on exactly who left per team before the VLP and where each person is now working.
I know few colleagues who received 30%-40% salary increase with their new jobs. Why would they care about VLP?
So, guessing you do not consider yourself one of the “smart” ones as you’re still there and have to ask this question on an internet forum? Leaving before a mass layoff often has nothing to do with being the best employee, there are many other factors such as; timing, opportunities and life circumstances that go into these decisions. Some of the “best” and “smart” employees were a bit annoyed they left before the VLP, as it would have been a nice goodbye gift.
Smart people aways find out new opportunities (what a nice package to cross to the other side of the street), the others are comfortable where they are :)
Smart ones have plenty of options, easy. Other voluntary leaves incoming?
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