Please be honest when responding. How many of you feel valued for your contributions at 3M? Do you think you're properly compensated? Personally, my last few interviews opened my eyes to how underpaid we are here. I'm still deciding what I'm going to do, but I definitely don't plan to stay here.
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Personally I think pay is fair to the market (please don't shoot me for saying that !). If the pay / benefits were not, then for sure people would leave in droves.
I think one of the issues though is 10 years ago 3M was a really top payer, wages better than anywhere else, great benefits, final salary pension schemes etc etc. Over last 10 years then they have intentionally drifted to "competitive pay". So essentially 3M pays the same as everyone else does. In real terms this means 3MERS have had a pay cut, out benefits no longer stretch further than anyone elses.
The other area they lose out is increasing peoples benefits through promotion, we used to promote mainly from within, last few years we have brought in outsiders, so the good 3MERS are leaving, getting jobs elsewhere, and getting well deserved promotions / pay rises
I personally have been treated very well by 3M. Yes, my job is very stressful but I accepted it knowing this. I have an amazing manager, as a matter of fact in my 20 years with 3M I have never had a bad boss. I am sure my experience is not like everyone's but I hope more good managers than bad exist. I am satisfied with my pay but always want more 😉 I will never work at 3M center, I love the factories as that is where the value is really created. We do have far too many executives. Pare the top and add more value added folks to the bottom. So far I am still employed and am still proud of what I do. For the negative stuff being illustrated there are so many more life saving and enhancing technologies and products 3M makes that do add positive society contributions.
I left 3M three years ago. Got 30% pay increase on leaving and now making almost double that with internal promotions at the new company. I’m valued and respected here. After 12 years loyalty with 3M, I was brainwashed into thinking the grass wasn’t greener. But how wrong was I. Leaving was the best thing I did.
Had 6 externals and all matched if not exceeded 3M salary. I worked on my career over 7 years. I didn’t jump from a 10 to a 14 in 2 years like some. My salary is well behind the pay band median.
I’ve landed on an offer for 82k more where my managerial role is supported by a team of 10 (instead of 1-2), I’m not on-call 7x24 as a single knowledge holder. I have unlimited vacation. My bonus is 40% of my base, of which is already substantially more than 3M. My benefits are equal if not better and still include a retirement account. Vesting is 2 years. My position at the new company is comparable to a JG15+ at 3M. I feel very valued walking in to the environment. The hiring process was 10 days from application to offer.
A few internal colleagues received offers from Boston Scientific, Allstate, Medtronic, and General Mills this week. No one is taking a pay cut if they decide to leave. Some interviewed so well that they are finally advancing their careers out of JG15’s where they were stranded to receive Director or VP roles that they deserve.
3M stopped valuing employees 8+ years ago. What used to be a top tier employer in MN, no longer is. Hired candidates are making 10% or more base salary and promotions for those already employed have been limited to 4x a year eligibility with that 8-12% max cap.
The work demand is insane due to constantly head butting with individuals who don’t want to work, while at work. Many processes and systems were created to work around those individuals. Old and antiquated software systems run on contracts and calling for help or putting in a ticket causes significant losses in productivity yet the individuals running service are unscathed. Those systems continue to limp along until they one day implode without a responsible party at the helm.
At least 3M’ers are still valued in the market, for now. If the ride is anything like GE’s, that won’t last long.
Been retired for a little while but what was the "ethics" training we had to take annually. It was boring, repetitive, and even a bit of B.S. legal eagle cr-p or something like that. Just an excuse to fire someone if they did the littlest of things to breach a nebulous set of policies.
Meanwhile, LG15 and up complained about how.much time it took them, and they got to just check a box link from a email without taking the full courses.
No raise last year, manager terrible, ethics point doesn’t work with proof of harassment, favoritism, stealing by manager.
I have steered people away from 3M
🖕🏻HR would flush me down the toilet if I’d fit.
I’ve interviewed externally and have been provided with a few offers. I think 3M pay is fair, especially if you are in a more senior role (i.e. T4a/S5/JG13 or above). JG14 and above pay is very competitive.
I have been interviewing for months.. have had a few offers… the closest one to my current 3M pay is 30k less than what I am making. So… nope. Not feeling underpaid.
The answer to this question will tell you if you are valued.
Are you winning?
Besides compensation, a big part of feeling valued comes down to your direct supervisor giving a sh-t about you. Unfortunately there aren’t many good ones at 3M.
- Not fairly compensated: YES
- Treated poorly: YES
- Recommend 3M to family or friends: NO
Every single solitary aspect of 3M is a disgrace!
Underpaid, not promoted, trying quiet quitting.
it still amazes me how undervalued the Production employees are treated, they are just treated as a number in each plant, yes managers will have their favourites as nepotism is rife still today, the hard working, rule following role employee will get nowhere if he is good at his production job, it is the same everywhere, you will not advance as you don't have the engineering mindset or the years of college education but you are still probably better problem solving than the Process Engineers that work in your department.
How do you know whether you are underpaid from an interview? Have you gotten the other better offers? Get the offer and leave if you feel you deserve better. Almost everyone in corporate America makes the same complaint, so it's nothing new.