What are your thoughts on the latest ESG coffee talk? What’s our final path forward?
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@as Even the layoffs are always silent, how can we expect internal discussions about the final path?
Agree, sadly. 'Here are more RSUs so the whipping can continue'. So Mr/Mrs Director, are you saying ESG is a sinking ship? I kind of hope so, sell us sever us, put us out of our misery already.
anyone looking for culture and petting in this company is in the wrong company. it is shut up and make money or they cut you. heck they even ki-l the slack channels for small talk and say get back to work. culture. ha. that guy talks like all the managers here do including hock -- rude truth
@kc If you really are a director you talk to people like an a--hole. No wonder there is so much divisiveness on this board. The tone and culture comes from the top.
I'm in corporate, 15 yr Dir, and know all the franchises obv more than you. Before Symantec there was CA security products in the ESG franchise. Symantec came in, that split CA IMS (Identity Mgmt) products out and brought in Symantec, renamed it SED. Renamed ESG after VMW. Check your own org charts, while majority is Symantec and CB folks, about 1/5 of ESG staff is from CA. So you don't even know your own org I guess. But here's the relevant hint to this thread: they lumped these products together and carved out IMS for a reason - one I need not spell out for you here I suppose cause you're not "getting it"
@g5 I guess you are from another department or CB. Before CB merged with us, our department was called SED(Symantec Enterprise Division). CA is completely irrelevant to ESG.
@g5 CA has nothing to do with ESG or security. Broadcom acquired CA to build one of the world's leading infrastructure technology companies, and CA generates stable revenue.
There's no comparison between CA and ESG, CA is in a much stronger position.
Ummm... do you even know what ESG stands for? Enterprise Security Group, a combination of cybersec products from Broadcom's acquisitions such as CA Technologies in 2018, Symantec in 2019, and then VMWare & Carbon Black more recently last year when they put VMW's fomer leaders like Rollerboy as its head. It's main problem is its products are not so new and losing market to competitors from CyberArk/Palo Alto Ntwrks, Crowdstrike, MS, SentinalOne, even old TrendMicro & Sophos. Broadcom is literally the most left and lowest on Gartner's magic quadrant, while those I've listed are at top right. So what are YOU smoking? Give me some of it.
@b9 Symantec and CA? What are you smoking?
The main prob w ESG is that its products just su-k - the leftovers from Symantec & CA that were not making big money even then. IMHO they are much less likely to just package everyone out rather than divest it to some strange buyer, who might do that at their own trim costs.
It’s obvious that the aggregator model didn’t work for ESG, as our revenue keeps dropping. I see a few possible final paths.
- Everyone being let go with a package.
- Being sold to a company like HCLTech.
- RSU grants being discontinued, forcing employees to find their way out.
@aw This is incorrect. Many groups within our company have their own coffee talks.
@as Why do you keep browsing an external website if you prefer internal discussions?
ESG is having their own Coffee Talks now? Typically at the divisional level they're called TownHalls or AllHands, reserving that CoffeeTalk term for Hock alone. Or are you asking about THE Hock Coffee Talk, which saw ESG again below the line of doom?
Perhaps this is a better conversation for inside the ESG group rather than on a website.